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Title: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 17, 2014, 07:45:11 PM
This is a father, son project, ( when PlayStation dosent rule ) have had beetles for over 30 years and still own my third, always fancied a rail, just never

got round to it,
Picked up a rolling pan, through the local vw club.
Plan to turn it into something like this
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/93fxdl/Mobile%20Uploads/2011-10-25124423.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/user/93fxdl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2011-10-25124423.jpg.html)

here's son doing the sit on and make brum brum noises picture
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/93fxdl/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0106.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/user/93fxdl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0106.jpg.html)
More to follow Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: apmaman on October 17, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Good luck with the build. Will keep an eye on this as I love a rail :D
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 17, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
Last weekend consisted of a 950 mile round trip to collect the frame kit.
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/93fxdl/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0222.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/user/93fxdl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0222.jpg.html)
Had a problem with the overall theme of the build,
mad max, black and basic ?
Navy seals fast assault vehicle
Or sad trucker with spots on the roof ?
Went and picked up a copy of volksworld ,
Huge moment of clarity,on the cover, a jeans theme buggy, and since I have owned a jeans bug for 30 years, it all fell into place. The rail will be a jeans rail .
Build is a bit along and will add more when I can
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on October 18, 2014, 08:24:49 AM
I bet the rof mtd rail got a few looks on the way home, keep us posted on the progress.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 19, 2014, 02:24:48 PM
Got a little shed time, so did a bit of mock up,
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/93fxdl/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0229.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/user/93fxdl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0229.jpg.html)
Showed a few details needing attention, headlight mounts need stiffened, rears might need moving for asthetics, all the welds are going to be sanded back and blended
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: chris bulls head on October 19, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
Looks nice iam building a volksrail at the moment with one of dreamshacks frames ... ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 19, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: chris bulls head on October 19, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
Looks nice iam building a volksrail at the moment with one of dreamshacks frames ... ;-)up
Thanks, this is a dreamshack frame, had to collect as Mark dosent deliver North of the border
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: chris bulls head on October 20, 2014, 02:20:47 PM
Yes I no it's a dreamshack frame ......good luck with the build  ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: dreamshack on November 04, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
What Glenn has not mentioned here - if you look carefully at the pics you may spot that the whole cab area can flip forwards. An idea of Glenn's which worked pretty well, a bit Nova!   Glenn also failed to mention his magpie son who was all over our donor vehicle pile like a rash gathering bits for a project of his own. like father like son I guess.  Dub in the blood
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: volksrod brian on November 05, 2014, 12:09:56 PM
Looks a good project :)
Keep us updated
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: dreamshack on November 06, 2014, 02:04:15 PM
Blond moment there, it wasnt glenn's son going through our spares pile for bits, it was another chap's son who bought at the same time.   I think he will be along soon too ;-)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 09, 2014, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: dreamshack on November 06, 2014, 02:04:15 PM
Blond moment there, it wasnt glenn's son going through our spares pile for bits, it was another chap's son who bought at the same time.   I think he will be along soon too ;-)
No worries, thought it was me having a senior moment as I was sure Stuart hadn't been scrounging, if he had, then half your stock would be in Scotland now.
Have you tried out any of the toys I brought you ?

Not a lot has happened on the build lately, got some free foam and cut to shape for the seats, bought 3 metres of denim, just got to get on with some sewing
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 01, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
Thyroid trouble has held me back quite bit lately, but today got a bit of welding and some painting done als a week or so ago I picked up a spare engine
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm80/93fxdl/2015-03/IMAG0245.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/user/93fxdl/media/2015-03/IMAG0245.jpg.html)
This is a late 1200, so will be fitted to my beetle and the bus 1700 fitted to the rail
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: jono5500 on September 26, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
has anyone else had problems with dreamshack frames , mines so out of shape ive had to cut the sides of and re weld, the front and rear mounts have been cut of and put right
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: PhillipM on September 26, 2015, 11:34:17 PM
I know of one that wasn't happy with the welding and twisted his diagonally the first time he went offroad in it, but then, they're not really designed for anything rough, so as much his own fault as anything.
I think you'd be better off in you own thread rather than someone's project one mind...
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Dave DND on September 27, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
Any custom built item will need some fettling and thumping with a big hammer, and fair to say that this probably applies to every item you fit.

But then, every Buggy would be the same if everything fitted properly  ::)


Anyway, Come on Glenn, we need some updated photos   ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on September 27, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
Sorry for the lack of updates., been laid low with health and wealth problems, hope to get back to my usual level of ineptitude soon.
The dreamshack rail augment is a play version, if you require a competition rail you will need something like a chenowth.
The trouble with fitting to a beetle pan is you don't know how many repairs it  has had and how true it is Another point with a steel frame is they will spring when released from the jig.
there was a post from Mark not long ago saying he is on holiday at the moment
Ps If you want to slag off anyone please do it in your own thread
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on December 17, 2019, 08:34:19 PM
Many years since this was updated, an ongoing fight with depression and other issues has slowed work to a crawl, things are still progressing, slowly and in bursts but any the better than nothing.
Current state of play
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/MUJzTpZpRYrMWbW6Kj7Lv2zC220LAcxfjbfWpMoT9Nv
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on December 17, 2019, 09:28:46 PM
Can see your problem all the nuts, bolts and come in handy stuff trays are empty ;D

Hope everything works out and you get back on track in the near future.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on February 01, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
Slowly ticking away at this, been trying to get somewhere with the wiring, decided to use a 50cal ammo box to seal everything away from muck and water. Just need to sort out knitting all the multicolored spaghetti together and fitting it into the box
https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/EQvl4vhgwJLQi4sanL7YVHy0XIxSSguVekDcilDSrsW
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on February 01, 2020, 08:35:17 PM
At least you can assemble it on the bench then drop it in and connect the ends to the relevant parts' good to see some progress ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 08, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
Things have veered off in a slightly different direction, a chance Facebook thread steered me in the direction of a part built manta Ray. Just before the lock down it arrived at mine.Son has taken a real interest in working on it.
Engine is now running, tinware fitted, brakes working, searchable working and pedal assembly reassembled and fitted.
Have given it a social distancing paint job ( looks ok from 6 feet )
(https://i.postimg.cc/hzFLNtzC/IMG-20200408-134854.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzFLNtzC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9kfbT4g/IMG-20200408-145524.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9kfbT4g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/1VwYbd3F/IMG-20200406-195640.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1VwYbd3F)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on April 08, 2020, 09:50:02 PM
looks tidy and an easy project  ;-)up ;-)up ;-)up ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Hugh on April 09, 2020, 07:46:50 AM
Brilliant bit of veering off. Not only a MantaRay but yellow to boot.

Double bonus points !
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 11, 2020, 05:40:11 PM
Got the pan driving today, no steering and almost no brakes so only back and forward
Sorry, no pictures as video will not upload
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 18, 2021, 09:58:22 AM
Long time since I updated this thread, not a great deal has happened, sandrail totally untouched, manta still in the hands of dvla, re v5
But one thing has advanced,
Two post lift!!!
Not in the slightest buggy related, but a big step forward for me,
Bougt this 3 years ago, then suffered severe mojo failure,  couple of weeks ago, son bent my ear about it and all hell let loose
New lift nuts ordered and fitted,

Columns lifted and bolted.
Wiring sorted
And I now have a flying sandrail
(https://i.postimg.cc/NjtXV5Gf/20211014-203427.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtdh1ZF0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdc1F2m1/20211011-153638.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7cFLgnb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRksMvRH/20211007-204342.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPxJwCMM)
Hopefully once motorcycle projects get moved forward,  and everything dumped under the lift, I can get the sandrail finished
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on October 18, 2021, 01:10:06 PM
Cool, more space, more projects.  ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on October 18, 2021, 03:26:52 PM
Room for another under there.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 19, 2021, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: bajaowa on October 18, 2021, 01:10:06 PM
Cool, more space, more projects.  ;-)up

(https://i.postimg.cc/jdLr2f2J/20211014-203438.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKXHYKS8)
Think son and myself already have enough projects
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on October 19, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Quote from: snoopy on October 18, 2021, 03:26:52 PM
Room for another under there.
Might squeeze the manta in there, but probably better to finish the rail and get it ready for summer first. Currently space filled with tool cabinets, spare engines and other assorted carp
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 12, 2021, 08:02:44 PM
Decided to get back to the sandrail,  made a to do list, brakes, rear suspension,  wiring, and lots of odds and ends.
Started by buying  a land rover steering rack
So can do a cheap rack conversion
(https://i.postimg.cc/JzG8KjW1/20211112-191105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XrStYGJh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kGQQ0V3G/20211112-191058.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJ0JfZ0x)

Looks hopeful,  will need to pull the worn steering box out and start fabrication on some mounts
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on November 12, 2021, 09:23:40 PM
Is that power'd steering? Are you gonna power it up?
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on November 13, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
You may find the landrover rack to wide and get some strange angles in the steering and limited turning.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 13, 2021, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: bajaowa on November 12, 2021, 09:23:40 PM
Is that power'd steering? Are you gonna power it up?
It is a power rack but first mod is to remove the hydraulics so it operates as a manual rack
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 13, 2021, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: snoopy on November 13, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
You may find the landrover rack to wide and get some strange angles in the steering and limited turning.
It's a freelander rack so has the steering arms mounted in the middle like the popular polo rack  but being landrover, has tha advantages of being cheap and easy to get
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 13, 2021, 05:08:54 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/7YR80zzS/20211113-160059.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCqPtC0L)
Better picture of the rack
Did a little bit of fiddling with the rail today, pulled the rear drums off and binned the shoes and cylinders as everything was oil soaked from it's time on the rotisserie
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on November 14, 2021, 08:58:34 AM
 ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: IDA on November 14, 2021, 10:51:09 PM
Mercedes a class electric pump ;-)up and keep it full pas..
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 15, 2021, 07:29:29 PM
Quote from: IDA on November 14, 2021, 10:51:09 PM
Mercedes a class electric pump ;-)up and keep it full pas..
Trying to keep it as minimalist  as possible,  also with a light rail, power assistance would most likely be overkill.
Over the next few days, hope to strip the rack and remove all the hydraulics, might even be able to reduce the width of it
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 15, 2021, 07:58:30 PM
Forgot to say, minimalist is the budget target also
Current spend
Complete rack assembly  £36
Mk5 golf column  £9.99
If I dont get caught out over incidentals, I hope to get it done for less than £100
Or if it doesn't work out, I will waste less than £100
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on November 15, 2021, 09:36:21 PM
Or have less than £100 of spares to sell. ;)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 16, 2021, 05:44:02 AM
Quote from: bajaowa on November 15, 2021, 09:36:21 PM
Or have less than £100 of spares to sell. ;)
Or knowing me, less than £100 of unfinished project
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on November 16, 2021, 07:49:36 AM
Worth a try for £100 if it works sell some kits for more money.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 16, 2021, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: snoopy on November 16, 2021, 07:49:36 AM
Worth a try for £100 if it works sell some kits for more money.
Not planning on making kits for sale, but putting the info up for anyone to copy if they want too,
If I can get it done for under a ton, could  be cheaper than a new steering box, also if successful I will be converting my manta buggy, as it's king and link pin with a badly worn steering box
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 19, 2021, 06:58:05 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/q73J04Xt/20211119-182945.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLqZFmQ5)
The golf column has arrived, tomorrow,  hope to get the rack stripped  and start some more test assembly
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: PhillipM on November 20, 2021, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: 93fxdl on November 15, 2021, 07:29:29 PM
Over the next few days, hope to strip the rack and remove all the hydraulics, might even be able to reduce the width of it
Ttfn Glenn

Don't forget to weld the shuttle solid or you'll have loads of play just off centre.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 20, 2021, 09:32:22 AM
Quote from: PhillipM on November 20, 2021, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: 93fxdl on November 15, 2021, 07:29:29 PM
Over the next few days, hope to strip the rack and remove all the hydraulics, might even be able to reduce the width of it
Ttfn Glenn

Don't forget to weld the shuttle solid or you'll have loads of play just off centre.
That's part of the plan, will give me an excuse to play with my new tig welder.
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on November 28, 2021, 01:19:48 PM
Little bit more done yesterday, welded and started rebuilding the steering rack, then finished lowering the rear suspension, also fitted new rear flexi hoses to the brake lines ready for when the new shoes and cylinders arrive
(https://i.postimg.cc/vH8RPbft/20211127-155534.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4WsjX91)
No progress today, got a 200 mile road trip to bring back a couple of gs550 Suzuki parts bikes
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on December 03, 2021, 11:40:14 PM
Few more bits done to Sandra , finished the brake lines, welded a filler onto the tank, hopefully tomorrow will get the brakes adjusted and bled, make a block off for the fuel gauge hole, and get the front suspension finished
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjWrktsN/20211203-204949.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj7137bm)
Ttfn Glenn

(https://i.postimg.cc/JhTvRqDn/20211203-205009.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NyHp4Rxq)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on December 04, 2021, 12:41:12 AM
Where's the tank going to fit? I'm assuming the steering rack is taking up it's space.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on December 04, 2021, 01:11:31 AM
Quote from: bajaowa on December 04, 2021, 12:41:12 AM
Where's the tank going to fit? I'm assuming the steering rack is taking up it's space.
Tank is behind the seats, over the gearbox.
Final placement of the rack will depend on getting the geometry right
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on December 28, 2021, 09:54:30 PM
A little bit more progress with the rail, lights mocked up ready for wiring,  new fuel lines and pump fitted, and tha cage roof is all cut ready to be welded back on with some space for human beings to fit inside,  but currently looks like I have a speedster sandrail
(https://i.postimg.cc/FzYsv8rR/20211228-185353.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZvhhFfyt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g2VcGvWv/20211228-190734.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPrWw1hD)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JnnR3vBq/20211228-191123.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CFvwB9G)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Leebow on December 28, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
Nice looking rail,is that a jeans beetle I see in the back ground 😀👍
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on December 29, 2021, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: Leebow on December 28, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
Nice looking rail,is that a jeans beetle I see in the back ground 😀👍
Yes it is a jeans,  waiting for its turn to be worked on.
The rail is getting built as a Jeans rail.  Tunis yellow paint with black details, jeans decals on the side, and possibly denim seat covers
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Leebow on December 29, 2021, 09:17:19 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/0NTXPcLd/774-B6-E36-EF84-4715-9132-A8-B855503-F3-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3vfvjWJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/t4mmmXkc/99-A4-E7-BE-0951-416-F-834-F-464-B59778-EC9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4GQ4nZP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/76Ss6S4v/D3-C5-BA5-B-EEE0-4-D29-9-CEB-07646-CCE3140.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/625Lb2Tz)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Leebow on December 29, 2021, 09:18:21 PM
That's my jeans that I'm planning on doing this next year needs abit of welding and painting 😀👍
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on December 29, 2021, 09:40:17 PM
A well trained eye young Jedi.  ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on January 23, 2022, 05:25:20 PM
Got a little more done to my experimental rack conversion, a quick cobble together of some box section,  to test out the idea

(https://i.postimg.cc/cC0Nvyhh/20220109-185111.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzyYYYHQ)

Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build with added manta ray
Post by: 93fxdl on February 26, 2022, 10:54:11 AM
The sandrail has taken a slight step back, now trying to focus on my manta ray, 

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpfgwvWK/20220202-111505.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLmQ1vrv)
Will need to get it running again,  give it a fresh coat of paint, total rewire, have some new headlights for it

(https://i.postimg.cc/Zn6JybPk/16458722972317582081954020618971.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSY77jFL)
Dont worry too much about the sandrail, that also has been getting some extras


(https://i.postimg.cc/cCBVSrMJ/20220225-203447.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fk1PbF6t)
Noisy exhaust


(https://i.postimg.cc/R0tpmWvz/20220225-203608.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/679fL57H)
Engine cage
Can see lots of painting in my future,
The manta body, sandrail engine cage and a couple of motorcycle fuel tanks
(https://i.postimg.cc/02cyGQRx/20220225-203438.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNJm4vZb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2xrk9Sg/20220225-203431.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WthLwsgb)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on February 26, 2022, 12:43:28 PM
2 more for team yellow.  :)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on February 26, 2022, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: bajaowa on February 26, 2022, 12:43:28 PM
2 more for team yellow.  :)
The manta will be changed to metallic blue, possibly with iridescent pearl in the clear coat
Ttfn Glenn  :)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on February 26, 2022, 07:46:58 PM
The possession of a V5 has focused the mind ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on February 27, 2022, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: snoopy on February 26, 2022, 07:46:58 PM
The possession of a V5 has focused the mind ;-)up
And is doing a good job of emptying my wallet
;D ;D ;D ;D
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on February 27, 2022, 07:44:28 AM
Think of it is a good investment as the value does not drop every year like a production car.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on February 27, 2022, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: snoopy on February 27, 2022, 07:44:28 AM
Think of it is a good investment as the value does not drop every year like a production car.

I don't drink or smoke, so what else would I spend my money on? And being single means i don't have to justify my spending .I am just a big kid at heart 8) 8) ;D, the bigger the kid, the bigger the toys
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on February 27, 2022, 02:01:28 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mp8hXXG8/20220227-131941.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykvfb19f)
Have started rubbing down the manta, ready for it's new coat of blue metallic
In places you can see the history of this body over the years, starting with a very 70S gold
metalflake
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0xBJsWd/20220227-122340.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgqXF65z)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on February 27, 2022, 09:30:17 PM
Lol. Always amuses me how the next colour change is completely different from the previous.  :)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Dipsy Deb on March 01, 2022, 10:26:27 AM
Good choice of colour welcome to the blue side Ttfn 👍
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 06, 2022, 07:11:02 PM
Son starting to learn bodywork

(https://i.postimg.cc/2SwzxPMn/20220306-174730.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFFG8nXM)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Znpmvg6B/20220306-174721.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSyWKmCp)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on March 06, 2022, 09:54:45 PM
He looks well chuffed! Nit like my granddaughter when I ask her to come for a walk in the rain.  bleugh
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 11, 2022, 06:29:24 AM
Opened another can of worms with rubbing down the top surface, :o :o one of the lower coats is covered in micro blisters, >:( >:( so having to take it pretty much back to the gell coat, which is exposing previous repairs. :-\ :-\ Looks like my quick run down and blow over is turning into a full body restoration  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Krug on March 11, 2022, 09:53:52 AM
Feeling your pain as I have a very distinct feeling that I may be in the same position   :o :o :o.    I think my Manta is almost the same blue originally.   When I got it out in the sun a few days ago I could see some obvious previous repairs that have been done to a poor standard.  I am hoping to start on it next week as I am feeling back fit and well.   Unlike you I do drink (lots) and I have some catching up to do on that as well which may push things back a little  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Let look at this on the positive side - we can share the pain and that will make it easier for both of us  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Krug on March 11, 2022, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Krug on March 11, 2022, 09:53:52 AM
Feeling your pain as I have a very distinct feeling that I may be in the same position   :o :o :o.    I think my Manta is almost the same blue originally.   When I got it out in the sun a few days ago I could see some obvious previous repairs that have been done to a poor standard.  I am hoping to start on it next week as I am feeling back fit and well.   Unlike you I do drink (lots) and I have some catching up to do on that as well which may push things back a little  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Lets look at this on the positive side - we can share the pain and that will make it easier for both of us  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Manxdavid on March 11, 2022, 11:19:23 AM
I wish that I could track down the (missing for 4 years now) Manta Ray moulds. £1K for a nice shiny new shell would save £ thousands in man-hours and paint.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 21, 2022, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: Manxdavid on March 11, 2022, 11:19:23 AM
I wish that I could track down the (missing for 4 years now) Manta Ray moulds. £1K for a nice shiny new shell would save £ thousands in man-hours and paint.
I sort of agree, but starting to like the patina look I am currently rocking.
Today some more rubbing down took place,, and a sneaky marketplace purchase,  roll bar for a pickup, will need to be cut and shut, plus all the black paint stripped off.
Needing to be narrowed by about 8 inches and extensions made to reach down to the floorpan
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jvNF24S/20220321-181914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Pp6h8hTf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5ymtVWcR/20220321-181904.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9Cx45h4)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: bajaowa on March 21, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
I realise the rear errr... support bars have nowhere to mount but I like that look.  ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 22, 2022, 08:11:50 AM
Quote from: bajaowa on March 21, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
I realise the rear errr... support bars have nowhere to mount but I like that look.  ;-)up
Don't worry,  will be getting a severe trim from the angry grinder,  also the rear bars are angled outwards, so swapping them over will bring them in more, if the section cut from the middle doesn't bring them in enough, plus they will get shortened, to stay within  the passenger compartment,
£60 for a collection of stainless tube and bends had to be a good gamble
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 26, 2022, 09:24:00 PM
Talking of gambles,  bought another buggy project with some of a 1303 included as a donor
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPcs7r6g/20220326-203744.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1C3Mjhn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fbtfhgt7/20220326-210226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R3mH7dTq)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on March 26, 2022, 09:32:50 PM
Will this be a rebuild or parts donor buggy and 1303
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 27, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: snoopy on March 26, 2022, 09:32:50 PM
Will this be a rebuild or parts donor buggy and 1303
The buggy will have to be a rebuild of some sort, since it is correctly registered as a Q plate buggy, if nothing else, the identity is worth more than I paid for the whole deal.
Believe the 1303 was a 1600, so hopefully will be a high ratio box to go with the IRS conversion,.
Engine turns over, so  hopefully a good 1600, with all genuine tinware, and an alternator.
The seats have been given a session of pressure washer
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 27, 2022, 05:13:21 PM
Had some shed time today,  engine turns over and has compression, 
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFNq8Ccw/20220327-154512.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bNzLD95)
And some of the other bits.
(https://i.postimg.cc/1z49RCfQ/20220327-154529.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV3rfyQ1)
And the rear wheels

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgqLSwTy/20220327-154523.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWPjzFkD)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 27, 2022, 08:52:09 PM
Another load of parts collected tonight

(https://i.postimg.cc/7Z0FxZG1/20220327-203944.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDqgcKhC)
The bonnet

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTn2JbyH/20220327-203940.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9vP1XCv)
Front wheels and a pair of pans


(https://i.postimg.cc/Ls0wDYrp/20220327-203933.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7r5t1sH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTw7bNWc/20220327-203920.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bxThKBn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mZ9J3rjv/20220327-203908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sjygkkwd)

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1fZS3QQ/20220327-203837.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz27GDdr)
I seem to have cornered the market on aftermarket steering wheels
Theres a complete front beam underneath everything and a bag with a spare carb, fuel pumps,distributor and a brand new belt cover
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on March 28, 2022, 08:26:16 AM
Looks like you brought a large collection of bits, the buggy on a Q is good as it can be rebuilt anyway with no problems.
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on March 28, 2022, 04:14:42 PM
Quote from: snoopy on March 28, 2022, 08:26:16 AM
Looks like you brought a large collection of bits, the buggy on a Q is good as it can be rebuilt anyway with no problems.
The correct v5 is probably worth more than I paid for everything, about 5 years and will be mot, tax exempt,
The 1303 is possibly an S, so the good gearbox and IRS conversion, possibly rack and pinion which may be valuable to the 02 03 brigade,
Still waiting for the seller to dig the shiny bits out of his loft and deliver all the big bits
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 01, 2022, 09:27:53 AM
Well the shiny bits arrived

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hn9B9f5r/20220401-084928.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tn73XvBb)
£20 worth of ebay finest, will probably cost more for the sensors to get them working

(https://i.postimg.cc/mDwHXRXW/20220401-085121.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrJv5yPK)
Shiny chrome headlights,  not rusty yet, as not taken out of the box

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1Mqpn8p/20220401-085007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDqsLVzy)
Rats nest wiring loom

(https://i.postimg.cc/cLR4MhkV/20220401-085013.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XtVfBV3)
Crusty fuse box!
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: PhillipM on April 01, 2022, 01:44:23 PM
That looks fun to sort, good luck!  ;-)up
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 01, 2022, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: PhillipM on April 01, 2022, 01:44:23 PM
That looks fun to sort, good luck!  ;-)up
Definitely and thanks
Ttfn Glenn  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 08, 2022, 04:15:48 PM
The big bits arrived today

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2v9D7CT/20220408-150018.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnZDf7hv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/76kQXV2D/20220408-150418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2q0wSnGX)
The 1303 will be a irs suspension and gearbox donor

(https://i.postimg.cc/0y6kq8Hj/20220408-150249.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k2m3QdCP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/X7q3wjWL/20220408-150257.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgP9rdz6)
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Dave DND on April 08, 2022, 05:08:34 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/76kQXV2D/20220408-150418.jpg)

Yabba Dabba Doo  ;-)up

Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Cornishdave on April 08, 2022, 06:30:35 PM
Don't know if this helps.


(https://i.postimg.cc/RhmHC9fT/Screenshot-20220408-182924-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLh6Nrm8)
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: snoopy on April 08, 2022, 07:33:07 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D nice one Dave
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: Dave DND on April 08, 2022, 07:57:28 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 09, 2022, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: Cornishdave on April 08, 2022, 06:30:35 PM
Don't know if this helps.


(https://i.postimg.cc/RhmHC9fT/Screenshot-20220408-182924-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLh6Nrm8)
I presume these were the build instructions you used in the construction of yours :P :P :P
Tested positive for covid on monday, so currently housebound, was so bad on Tuesday, it took me about 4 hours to repair a dozen wires in the loom, must be feeling a bit better today as it only took an hour to wire the fuse box

(https://i.postimg.cc/W4zG4MvT/16495278185381476537956010819357.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/943R8w0n)
A strange mix of wiring codes, black for live and earth, yellow for earth's and some live feeds with a couple of runs using 2 core household cable.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Next will be attacking the dash switches and hopefully making a new dash panel

(https://i.postimg.cc/NF6TnD17/16495278466186793468241216748726.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8fCjJhXj)
Ttfn Glenn
Yes I could remake the loom,  and possibly will once I feel like losing the will to live, until then its make do with what I have
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 13, 2022, 06:28:36 PM
Started investigating the floorpan of my new rat project
Frightening what some people are happy to drive around

(https://i.postimg.cc/25Xc54Bs/20220413-181316.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDg6Wq88)
A few tacks and rust holding the handbrake onto the tunnel, and a huge hole with a plate over it

(https://i.postimg.cc/BZCFcJm6/20220413-181322.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhfhKRWW)
When shortening a pan, it's normal to fully weld around the join
Ttfn Glenn
Title: Re: sandrail build
Post by: 93fxdl on April 23, 2022, 03:26:58 PM
Got a coat of clear onto my manta ray

(https://i.postimg.cc/D0b2V4Hk/20220423-150551.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64tsnqBY)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pdGhR8Gp/20220423-150542.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyX4QyWL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYyBzWr5/20220423-150534.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzMFSFnB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ncGLnBMp/20220423-150529.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGt8qyb2)
Ttfn Glenn