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Started by baloo, November 14, 2023, 10:12:01 AM

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Quote from: baloo on December 02, 2023, 11:18:42 AM
i would also like it to be tax free if  a buggy can be ?  as the way i read it it needs to be not modified in the last 30 years  and be at least 40 years old  so thats not going to work out either lol

You've not understood the rules correctly.


Historic road tax status applies to vehicles 40+ years old. Modifications are allowable in theory.

VHI as in Vehicle of Historic Interest status only applies to MOT exemption. A vehicle must be 40+ years old, have Historic tax status and have had no 'substantial modifications' in the past 30 years.

The criteria for Historic road tax and MOT exemption are different.

A vehicle can have Historic free tax if 40+ years old but not necessarily be MOT exempt if it's been modified.


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Quote from: Manxdavid on December 02, 2023, 04:27:12 PM

Quote from: baloo on December 02, 2023, 11:18:42 AM
i would also like it to be tax free if  a buggy can be ?  as the way i read it it needs to be not modified in the last 30 years  and be at least 40 years old  so thats not going to work out either lol

You've not understood the rules correctly.


Historic road tax status applies to vehicles 40+ years old. Modifications are allowable in theory.

VHI as in Vehicle of Historic Interest status only applies to MOT exemption. A vehicle must be 40+ years old, have Historic tax status and have had no 'substantial modifications' in the past 30 years.

The criteria for Historic road tax and MOT exemption are different.

A vehicle can have Historic free tax if 40+ years old but not necessarily be MOT exempt if it's been modified.

sounds good to me, would be happy with free tax and dont mind taking it for an mot once a year

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Quote from: baloo on December 02, 2023, 02:12:22 PM
i was only thinking  of second hand shell as ive been offered one for £200  l know it will be peppered with holes and require work but grp is fairly easy to work with  and having looked on westcoast buggies at new bodies  its 2k for a new shell, well £1350 for the tub £350 for the side panes and £300 for the windscreen  but it dose look nice and shiny though lol   but thats not out of the question though,  ive been talking to jbug61 about buying a chassis/floorpan off him, something will happen at some point  and i will know what im doing then,

Give me a shout at FF Buggies  0845 643 5815

We can provide you with a solid colour LWB FF Buggy shell with side pods for £1300 in a solid colour (any RAL or BS5252) or if you want to go metal flake then these the price starts at £1600. Screens are available from Heritage Parts Centre - always work looking for a discount code for these

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Quote from: Roadrunner on December 03, 2023, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: baloo on December 02, 2023, 02:12:22 PM
i was only thinking  of second hand shell as ive been offered one for £200  l know it will be peppered with holes and require work but grp is fairly easy to work with  and having looked on westcoast buggies at new bodies  its 2k for a new shell, well £1350 for the tub £350 for the side panes and £300 for the windscreen  but it dose look nice and shiny though lol   but thats not out of the question though,  ive been talking to jbug61 about buying a chassis/floorpan off him, something will happen at some point  and i will know what im doing then,

Give me a shout at FF Buggies  0845 643 5815



We can provide you with a solid colour LWB FF Buggy shell with side pods for £1300 in a solid colour (any RAL or BS5252) or if you want to go metal flake then these the price starts at £1600. Screens are available from Heritage Parts Centre - always work looking for a discount code for these

hi  thanks for the offer
  i think ive settled on a swb varaint, now dont take it personally but your arse end looks a little saggy  :o  it may well be age  ;)
 


i think im going to use a transverse engine and box as im not keen on the engine out the back which means i need more body work at the rear

ive been looking at various models and the doon looks the closest to how i think i want it , are they still in bussiness, when i follow the links i just get this





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Best speak to Lee at Volksmagic in Oldbury he does the Doon bodies for Chad on 0121 541 2278

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Quote from: snoopy on December 04, 2023, 03:42:04 PM
Best speak to Lee at Volksmagic in Oldbury he does the Doon bodies for Chad on 0121 541 2278

thank you  ;-)up

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Quote from: baloo on December 04, 2023, 03:14:33 PM
hi  thanks for the offer
  i think ive settled on a swb varaint, now dont take it personally but your arse end looks a little saggy  :o  it may well be age  ;)

Think it's just the angle of the photo.  Doon is a lovely buggy too.  ;-)up

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Quote from: Roadrunner on December 04, 2023, 07:50:37 PM
Quote from: baloo on December 04, 2023, 03:14:33 PM
hi  thanks for the offer
  i think ive settled on a swb varaint, now dont take it personally but your arse end looks a little saggy  :o  it may well be age  ;)

Think it's just the angle of the photo.  Doon is a lovely buggy too.  ;-)up

im sure its fine in the flesh, im still looking at pictures and trying to work out the different styles,  looking at the pic/banner at the top of the page the right hand red buggy has a short boot revealing a lot of the engine, the green one next to it has more bodywork covering the engine which is what im after, l also like the sidepods, so on my shopping list l have     side pods  "long" bodywork at rear and an opening bonnet and swb


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Quote from: baloo on December 05, 2023, 09:14:42 AM
im still looking at pictures and trying to work out the different styles,  looking at the pic/banner at the top of the page the right hand red buggy has a short boot revealing a lot of the engine, the green one next to it has more bodywork covering the engine which is what im after, l also like the sidepods, so on my shopping list l have     side pods  "long" bodywork at rear and an opening bonnet and swb

From those requirements Doon fits the bill, especially on the opening bonnet front.

Not sure if Rob at East Coast Buggies have the opening bonnet mould for the Manx style buggies, if he does then the Sidewinder is an option.  This does have a large opening at the top, but a standard UK oblong number plate can be fitted here.  This is not as open as the Prowler (available from East Coast) which is the red one you mentioned at the top right.  There is also the Classic (Manx) from East Coast which is the other Red one in the banner.  The Sidewinder had wider arches to fit under tyres under the body which would normally protrude on the Manx.


You have gone full circle here from a LWB that will not need an IVA test to be correctly registered back to a SWB that will.

Doon also do a LWB which looks good and has the opening bonnet.

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Quote from: Roadrunner on December 05, 2023, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: baloo on December 05, 2023, 09:14:42 AM
im still looking at pictures and trying to work out the different styles,  looking at the pic/banner at the top of the page the right hand red buggy has a short boot revealing a lot of the engine, the green one next to it has more bodywork covering the engine which is what im after, l also like the sidepods, so on my shopping list l have     side pods  "long" bodywork at rear and an opening bonnet and swb

From those requirements Doon fits the bill, especially on the opening bonnet front.

Not sure if Rob at East Coast Buggies have the opening bonnet mould for the Manx style buggies, if he does then the Sidewinder is an option.  This does have a large opening at the top, but a standard UK oblong number plate can be fitted here.  This is not as open as the Prowler (available from East Coast) which is the red one you mentioned at the top right.  There is also the Classic (Manx) from East Coast which is the other Red one in the banner.  The Sidewinder had wider arches to fit under tyres under the body which would normally protrude on the Manx.


You have gone full circle here from a LWB that will not need an IVA test to be correctly registered back to a SWB that will.

Doon also do a LWB which looks good and has the opening bonnet.

hi,  yes i think the doon looks a likely candidate, ive just messaged them on thier FB page to ask about cost, lets see if they reply

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Quote from: Roadrunner on December 05, 2023, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: baloo on December 05, 2023, 09:14:42 AM
im still looking at pictures and trying to work out the different styles,  looking at the pic/banner at the top of the page the right hand red buggy has a short boot revealing a lot of the engine, the green one next to it has more bodywork covering the engine which is what im after, l also like the sidepods, so on my shopping list l have     side pods  "long" bodywork at rear and an opening bonnet and swb

From those requirements Doon fits the bill, especially on the opening bonnet front.

Not sure if Rob at East Coast Buggies have the opening bonnet mould for the Manx style buggies, if he does then the Sidewinder is an option.  This does have a large opening at the top, but a standard UK oblong number plate can be fitted here.  This is not as open as the Prowler (available from East Coast) which is the red one you mentioned at the top right.  There is also the Classic (Manx) from East Coast which is the other Red one in the banner.  The Sidewinder had wider arches to fit under tyres under the body which would normally protrude on the Manx.


You have gone full circle here from a LWB that will not need an IVA test to be correctly registered back to a SWB that will.

Doon also do a LWB which looks good and has the opening bonnet.

yes full circle but thats what happens when i start investigating stuff lol,  its the side view i just think the swb has the " right" proportions if it needs an iva so be it

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Doon....  Chad went the extra mile when designing the Doon. (with IVA in mind).  The Doon has the "return edge" on tub perimeter. "Recessed" area for speedo. Etc etc.

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If you're thinking transverse rear engine and hence going the IVA route you may want to look at the Acme Berrien GTX for ideas.

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