My new Manta Ray project

Started by Krug, February 20, 2022, 07:53:22 AM

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Got rid of all the left over mk1 cortina stuff I had one rh light 2 trims and about 10 assorted lenses for £2 last year just to get them out of the way good ones are hard to find.

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Started working on the Manta, at last, today.  Rainy day so ideal garage day. Started small but logical.  The steering column came inside the buggy (not fitted) and its a bit hard moving it around on my own without one. That was the logical start.  Pulled it apart to see if it was ok.   Quite a bit of surface rust so given a coat of Jenolite and looks better already.  Think it will get another coat tomorrow and then I can spray it. Pics below were after a good wire brush and a some wire wool.  Forgot to take any after the Jenolite - but it really did look better  :)







And I could not resist polishing this as it was looking very sorry for its self



For its first rough polish its not looking too bad.  Will need a few more goes before I get it really polished and smooth. 



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Those concertina sections fill me with dread on buggies, check it very carefully for cracks and rust. They don't work as they were designed to on a buggy anyway, the way the column is mounted. :-\
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Quote from: Manxdavid on April 12, 2022, 06:55:03 PM
Those concertina sections fill me with dread on buggies, check it very carefully for cracks and rust. They don't work as they were designed to on a buggy anyway, the way the column is mounted. :-\

My sidewinder doesn't have one so thanks for the advice as this is new territory for me.   I plan to give it a good clean again tomorrow and will give it a good check.

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Had one snap clean off luckily I was just going hard left into the drive a pair of universal joints in a solid column is a safer option.

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Quote from: snoopy on April 13, 2022, 08:02:14 AM
Had one snap clean off luckily I was just going hard left into the drive a pair of universal joints in a solid column is a safer option.

The front axle/framehead is not a crumple zone and columns are invariably solidly mounted to the dash frame (Beetles had slotted mounting holes or shear bolts) so I prefer a solid column.
"Ah, Beach Buggies, sure, just a quick cheap way of getting a few more years out of a rusty Beetle. You can throw one together in a weekend." anon.

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With no beetle bonnet and spare wheel to absorb impact the thin frame head crumples although not designed to making your column move back towards you, here is one I tested a while ago.
Buggies are best not crashed with a heavy front impact even with a collapsible column that will not collapse as the beetle bulkhead is missing.


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Snoopy that looks sad.

Did it get rebuilt ?
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No it got scrapped and I can say the early GP bodies burn ferociously, if you are going to do something do it properly it was damaged from rolling as well as the impact.

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How would you recommend I get rid of the crumple zone?   Is it a simple cut out?  Never done one as my Sidewinder was done before I owned it.   I can have a good look at it to see if I can work it out but any advice would be very welcome.

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You could cut out, and then weld a tube over the top which has the same ID as the column OD.  I have seen this done in the Hot Rod Beetle world when extending the column.

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I've bought a Pre 67 Steering Column, I got it on ebay just before Christmas as I'm changing mine, simply as I don't want a key hole type shroud.  It's a solid straight metal and doesn't have the crumple area.

It's on one of my to do lists....  Worth looking out for one to replace the one you have.

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get a pre 67 column and use the bottom 1/2 to replace the crumple section and lower 1/2 of your post 67 but fit a sleeve tube inside the join and get it welded solid, you can extend or shorten the column to suit your driving position whilst doing this.

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Thanks guys - good advice an now back on ebay  :) :) :)

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Tony I have both a MIG and ARC if you need assistance or want to borrow them, or I can suggest Ron France's place: Engineering Fabrication Services on Brookfield Industrial Estate (Behind Conways)  I've taken loads of stuff to him in the past, he always does an amazing job.




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