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Started by baloo, November 14, 2023, 10:12:01 AM

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baloo

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well it should only be different under the skin  the aim is to make it look just like any other buggy except with 150hp power steering abs etc etc ,  rear end might be a challenge  but i have some ideas

baloo

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Beach Buggy
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i find myself trawling the internet for pictures of buggys and looking at side pods and front over hang



i particularly like the side pods on this  the opening could be just black paint in my case
and looking at the front bonnet overhang i might get away with the  grand vitara chassis rails
time will tell

baloo

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Beach Buggy
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i can be quite pedantic about how things look and in my experience if you get a line a little off it changes the whole thing, for example on the orange buggy  the front wheel arch has a flat on the top, my liking is for the arch to follow the wheel to make it look symmetrical, is that the right word 




i would need to remodel that something like this




which is why i bought the second hand body so i can chop it up and play around with shapes







baloo

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last picture should be the second picture but you get my drift

Hugh

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The front wheel arch may end up essentially symmetrically framing the wheel or I think better described as you want the front wheel arch to echo or match or compliment the round tyre shape...

I can describe things but not so sure I could cut the fibre glass such that it remotely enhanced the wheel shape !

Those spoked wheels look so good I hadn't really taken in what the wheel arch was doing....
Hugh

baloo

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Quote from: Hugh on January 08, 2024, 06:08:54 PM
The front wheel arch may end up essentially symmetrically framing the wheel or I think better described as you want the front wheel arch to echo or match or compliment the round tyre shape...

those spoked wheels look so good I hadn't really taken in what the wheel arch was doing....

hi Hugh
  yep that sounds right  to me

Dipsy Deb

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Hi i have always loved Suzuki jeeps I have had 3 convertible ones great fun and reliable, if you are selling Suzuki things I am looking for a spare wheel for my Suzuki 2020 version ( no longer doing convertible vehicles which is a shame).  Full size or space saver if you have one for sale. Cheers Deb
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baloo

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Quote from: Dipsy Deb on January 09, 2024, 10:54:28 AM
Hi i have always loved Suzuki jeeps I have had 3 convertible ones great fun and reliable, if you are selling Suzuki things I am looking for a spare wheel for my Suzuki 2020 version ( no longer doing convertible vehicles which is a shame).  Full size or space saver if you have one for sale. Cheers Deb

Hi
   everything im selling is suzuki sj based which uses a wheel with a stud Patten  of 5x139.7  your 2020 is to new for me lol it uses 5x114.3 wheels,  if any of mine fitted you could have one for free,  there is a suzuki breaker down Gloucester way im sure he would have one, can find you the details if you want

thanks Andy

baloo

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he is in evesham not Gloucester  ::)
never bought off him but he is always advertising suzuki stuff




Dipsy Deb

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Thanks very much I will give them a shout.  Good luck with the build. 👍
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baloo

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Beach Buggy
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#85
well i did a little tinkering as i had a free hour yesterday,  i was fiddling with the lwb bodyshell and the grand vitara chassis  the front over hang on the chassis which i thought was going to be the problem wasent after all




i end up with around 2" of the chassis sticking out which is fine, i can roll a 2" tube into a curve and make a neat front bumper and attach to this  ;-)up

its the back end which is an issue it has far more over hang on the chassis than the mk 1 vitara does, in one way it  would be good to use as is as it houses the fuel tank  which means i could make the rolling chassis drivable before the body gets  fitted,   but i would need to either extend the back of the body a bit or disguise it some how maybe with a fg bumper
its this giving me issues



its not a lot to long but enough




mk 1 vitara has far less rear over hang, but i guess thats what happens to vehicles as new versions come out they get longer bigger wider and heavier , 

i think i will be building this on the mk1 chassis so i dont have to alter the chassis at all, wanted to use the mk2 so i had a power steering rack instead of a box but hey hoe

body sits down on the chassis fine and dandy, i know its a lwb but will shorten it down  once i get into it





mk1 chassis rear over hang is 6" less



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There was a supercar released not that long ago (cannot for the life of me remember what it was - possibly Ferrari?) that had a set of rear engine fins that almost looked like a set of old 1980's rear window plastic louvres, but upside down - it actually looked pretty cool

It was the first thing I thought about when seeing your rear end before you commented about wondering how to disguise it

Just a thought
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baloo

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Beach Buggy
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Quote from: Dave DND on January 11, 2024, 01:40:51 PM
There was a supercar released not that long ago (cannot for the life of me remember what it was - possibly Ferrari?) that had a set of rear engine fins that almost looked like a set of old 1980's rear window plastic louvres, but upside down - it actually looked pretty cool

It was the first thing I thought about when seeing your rear end before you commented about wondering how to disguise it

Just a thought

any and all suggestions gratefully received, if you find any pictures even better

baloo

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Beach Buggy
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i found these pic mooching around on youtube, seems to be an engine cover but the shape is quite nice and quite a few buggys have them so i guess commercially made,



























baloo

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Beach Buggy
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i was thinking something like this but wider with the rear lights and number plate built in might buy me 3 or 4" which is probably all i need




and to make one  i was just looking at a vitara front bumper like this





it would need narrowing a touch by taking a bit out of the middle,  then cut the centre lower section out and replace with a diffuser, and the recesses for the front fogs would become the position for round rear fog light
once its chopped and fettled i would take a mould off it  and make a glassfibre one







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