Electrical terminals

Started by pepsi81, October 02, 2018, 10:20:51 PM

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Anyone ever used wago terminal blocks? Just found out about them this evening.
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Yes lots. Only the lever type work with automotive type stranded wire though. The push blocks are for solid/thick stranded domestic stuff.
Good quality stuff, but pricey if you need a lot, not "in line" and difficult to waterproof.

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Hi all, need some help. Just in case the missus agrees we're going to IBW I've decided to fit some auxiliary sockets.

Hopefully the pics show a 12v (20a) socket and 2 x usbs, 1 x 5v (2.1a), the other 6v (1a)?
Question 1: can I piggy back both to one fuse, 15a fuse, 20 amp fuse or do they need to independently wired and fused. What about the - / earth, am I better keeping these separate too.Intended us is phone, GPS and the occasional air pump.
Question 2: only got a 6 way fuse box, no spare terminals. Thinking of relacing with something like a 12 way , then I'm ready for any additional loads. Any recommendations, advice appreciated.
Don't like being under the dash too much, last time I was in hospital for 4 days with blood poisoning :'(

Want to do it right, I'm mechanical , no electrician or abc answers are great for me ;D

Thanks , Paul

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Hi Paul, it sounds to me like a lot of the time you might want to use these sockets, you will not be driving the buggy and so will not want to have your ignition switched on. So I would say wire it straight to the battery with a fuse as close as you can neatly get to the battery. This way you can plug in at any time to use anything without having to leave your keys in it and it works when you are driving it as well. As far as what amp fuse to use and wire thickness, if the gadgets  do not show what working amps they use: if the wattage is divided by 12 it will give the amps. I think 25 amps total including the USB ports is the most you would want to go for :D

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For some reason the pics haven't come up.

Rob, thanks for your guidance  ;-)up

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Robs idea is easiest until you get more fuses in the buggy 6 are enough for the road lights and nothing else. usb sockets draw power all the time but only a small amount however wired to the battery full time they become more of a fire risk which is why they are better on the ignition or a switch
to power socket when they are needed.

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They will also drain the battery in a car that is not used regularly. Best off the accessory  stop of the ignition or if you have an isolator switch off the switched side of that.

With a fuse of course
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Quote from: Doon L001 on November 17, 2018, 02:36:10 PM
They will also drain the battery in a car that is not used regularly.

Not impossible to kill a battery over a long weekend if left switched on 
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Will wait until I get a larger fuse box. Back to the original question, can piggy back the usb/12v sockets together or use dedicated cable and individual fuses for each.

Thanks :-\

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you can piggy back them and splitting to 2 fuses means should you have a failure you do not loose them all at one time.

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That makes sense. Thanks Snoopy  ;-)up

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I have a combination unit of a 12v lighter socket plus two usb.
Can't remember the fuse size though
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This is what I intend to install.

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Quote from: snoopy on November 17, 2018, 11:54:48 AM
Robs idea is easiest until you get more fuses in the buggy 6 are enough for the road lights and nothing else. usb sockets draw power all the time but only a small amount however wired to the battery full time they become more of a fire risk which is why they are better on the ignition or a switch
to power socket when they are needed.

Good spot Snoopy!!!, perhaps not a good idea to wire it live all the time, with those voltage reduction gizmo's on the USB ports

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I generally piggy back the 12V and USB together, using a 25amp wire and nothing bigger than a 20 amp fuse (alay have a fuse at lower ampage than wire.


I then wire direct to a permanent live wire (through the fuse) but put it through a flick switch so you can charge your phone without leaving the ignition on (an hence cooking your coil) but can then turn the power to the USB's socket off via their own flick switch when not using the buggy.

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