Following on from my MOT success at the weekend, advisory for front tyres nearing the legal limit... A stupid tyres question coming up.......... :D
Currently 185/65/14 on the front end........... Now... Having done a bit of a interweb trawl it would seem that because of the lack of weight on the front of a buggy, there is a penchant for fitting softer tyres to the front end to improve handling / braking / reduce skip steer...... Anyone have any opinions about any of this? and what would you suggest?
Does the size sound about right? What would you recommend as a tyre ? :-\
I used to fit good quality remoulds, Colway or the like, slightly softer compound than regular tyres. Budget brands can be a bit softer/grippier too. Top Gear did a braking test years ago, rems. and budgets stopped quite a bit quicker than top name brands.
What width are your wheels?
I fitted softer (rain) tyres on the front, transformed it. Mine are 14" rims
You need a grippy tyre as they tend to be softer rubber also check the load rating the lighter the load the softer the side walls.
Tyre sites have to show grip and ratings. Guess a harder tyre also has a higher db reading for noise.
Not sure about the width of the rims Manxdavid, They are Wolfrace Slots. Ill try and have a peek later......
Yes that's what I had read Doon, softer compound rubber, low pressures in them...
Snoop, How does load rating work? I have heard of speed ratings but obviously a different kettle of worms and certainly not an issue with my buggy.. ;D
Hudge Buggy has Toyo Proxies on the front, basically a road legal track tyre, don't expect to get more than 6 K out of them, but you will stop with no problems, with no weight in the front. ;-)up
I would suggest something like a good brand winter tyre? Very soft but with lots of grip with the off road styled pattern.
I've also used re-moulded tyres from Maxxsport. I used the road legal race tyre RB5's and they were fantastic, so I'd recommend there tyres. The RB5's were super slicks barely legal. There are other less slick so not as deadly in the rain ;)
Running uniroyal rain tyres on the front,195/60/15 with 12 lb pressure sorted
The load rating is the 2 digit number before the speed rating letter at the end of the tyre info 185/70 15 66 H.
So 66 in my example the higher the number the more load they take and the stiffer they are.
My toyo proxys have done well over 6000 and have loads of tread left but they make the steering heavier, I notice a difference when I put the summer wheels on after light steering in the winter with whatever make is on there now.
Ok,
Hot off the press from a chilly garage.... :D :)
Rears : wolf race slots ( 8.50 J R15 FHAH .23 ) with Bridgestone Duellers 215 R15 100S
Fronts: wolf race slots ( 6 X 14 X 105 OUT ) with Marshall steel belted radials 185 65 14 86T......
Mean anything to anyone ???? :-\
Quote from: snoopy on March 08, 2016, 06:33:20 PM
My toyo proxys have done well over 6000 and have loads of tread left .
Sorry Guys and Snoopy, I should have been more specific, there are many Toyo Proxie types , I have the TR-1's.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/tire/pattern/proxes-t1-r
I think i have Falcons on mine semi racing tyre on the front, soft and grips too 8), i have Yokohama racing tyres on the rears.
Quote from: HUDGE BUGGY on March 08, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: snoopy on March 08, 2016, 06:33:20 PM
My toyo proxys have done well over 6000 and have loads of tread left .
Sorry Guys and Snoopy, I should have been more specific, there are many Toyo Proxie types , I have the TR-1's.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/tire/pattern/proxes-t1-r
No need to apologise Hudge the more comments and info the better, then off o the web to check stuff out. Just that front tyres wearing out in 6k would suggest excesive scrub from incorrect set up or too many track days as a rule.
I had proxes 4 on my old car, I wasn't too keen on them as they would lock up, and break traction on the beans a lot quicker than the dunlops it came with.
Sayin' that just bought a set of T1r's to put on the front as the avons are 16 years old !!
As far as I can see TR1s don't come in a 14" option :-\ and most tyres are load rated 89 and upwards ??????????
Quote from: Pondlife on March 09, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
As far as I can see TR1s don't come in a 14" option
Did you not look at the link I posted
Look @ the sizes
195/55 R14 14 82V F C 70 dB
195/45 R14 14 77V F C 70 dB
225/40 R14 14 82V F C 70 dB
http://www.toyo.co.uk/tire/pattern/proxes-t1-r
Sorry hudge yes I did but had 65 profile in the box not 55...............
Done a bit more research and found......
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/hankook/winter-i-cept-rs-w442/
Quote from: Pondlife on March 09, 2016, 02:40:42 PM
Sorry hudge yes I did but had 65 profile in the box not 55...............
Done a bit more research and found......
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres/hankook/winter-i-cept-rs-w442/
That link is for a Winter tyre designed for cold temperatures, you really want a summer tyre
Winter tyres will last ok on a buggy in summer as you are not clocking up the massive mileage some production cars do and being softer they may help with the ride quality.
Mine are PXT1R 195/55 x14 82V the ride is fine but the steering goes heavier so may use a bit more pressure this year rather than 10-12 psi
Looking at the TOYOs and they are rated E & E for both wet grip and fuel efficiency ??????
Uniroyal rainexpert are a wet grip tyre with a reputation for a softer ride but I have no experience of them.
https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres-195-60-14-86/?m%5B10%5D=on
Softer compound will reduce tyre life and increase fuel consumption as they are stickier on the road (so will low tyre pressure), but my rain tyres are so superior to the ones on there before.
The originals just locked up if the road was wet, a bit un-nerving when stopping at lights on a roundabout (so turning) in the rain. Only doing 15-20 mph and NS just locked and used 1/2 the next lane, luckily it was empty.
New tyres just work and with the mileage I do in what isnt after all the most economical car to drive I would rather not crash than have tyres that last for ever
Quote from: Merscury on March 09, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
Uniroyal rainexpert are a wet grip tyre with a reputation for a softer ride but I have no experience of them.
https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres-195-60-14-86/?m%5B10%5D=on
Be very carful if you order from tyreleader. If you order the wrong size you will have to pay £25 per tyre to return them.
I know I have a pair of 205/60 15 sitting my garage I didn't double check before I comfirmed my order.
I wanted 235/60 15 but some how managed to order the wrong size. They will not reply to your emails once they have your money and have sent the tyres.
They are cheap but its a risk I won't take again https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/terms-and-conditions (https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/terms-and-conditions)
How do you think these would be on a buggy :-\
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/stayfocusedboy/image.jpg1_zpsmv1az4mm.jpg) (http://s744.photobucket.com/user/stayfocusedboy/media/image.jpg1_zpsmv1az4mm.jpg.html)
Quote from: Stayfocusedboy on March 09, 2016, 06:38:22 PM
How do you think these would be on a buggy :-\
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/stayfocusedboy/image.jpg1_zpsmv1az4mm.jpg) (http://s744.photobucket.com/user/stayfocusedboy/media/image.jpg1_zpsmv1az4mm.jpg.html)
if you want some 205/60 15 mine are for sale. http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,8131.0.html (http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,8131.0.html)
Quote from: Mickyb on March 09, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: Stayfocusedboy on March 09, 2016, 06:38:22 PM
How do you think these would be on a buggy :-\
if you want some 205/60 15 mine are for sale. http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,8131.0.html (http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,8131.0.html)
I thought the thread started with 14" fronts wanted ?????
Opps. Sorry. :-[