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Title: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 10, 2024, 05:44:59 PM
Buggers
I am looking for a couple of Steering Box mounting Bolts that Clamp the box to the front beam - part number is N0104481  and nobody seems to have any?
They seem to be a strange thread pitch and cannot find anything else that fits?

(https://i.postimg.cc/ryfyzqcR/N0104481.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Also looking for the steering Box lower Flange clamp - this is the bit that goes on the end of the steering box shaft and below the rubber ring - I want an old fasioned bare metal one with good internal threads rather than a new one that for some reason all seem to have been chrome plated.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvp4Q29y/clamp.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Anyone have anything kicking about please?   :-\
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Paul1953 on February 10, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Dave...   avoid the repro one... It is not fit for purpose....  The bolts..... these will be a 10.9 tensile standard metric shoulder bolt of either 1.5 or the finer 1.0 pitch. I have fitted a fair few over the years and never had cause to seek any other thread type. Make sure they are torqued correctly and as belt and braces use the specific  lock tab washers.
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 10, 2024, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: Paul1953 on February 10, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Dave...   avoid the repro one... It is not fit for purpose.... 

Assuming you mean the flange?  I actually want a real one as probably going to be sticking it in the lathe anyway to make an adaptor out of it


Quote from: Paul1953 on February 10, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
The bolts..... these will be a 10.9 tensile standard metric shoulder bolt of either 1.5 or the finer 1.0 pitch. I have fitted a fair few over the years and never had cause to seek any other thread type. Make sure they are torqued correctly and as belt and braces use the specific  lock tab washers.

1.5 pitch doesn't want to fit which is what has thrown me a bit - definitely not finer though 

I`m guessing its an oddball size as many sites list them by part number, but all out of stock - if it were a normal type bolt then I would not have expected to be a problem getting them?
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: HUDGE BUGGY on February 10, 2024, 09:20:55 PM
MEGABUG not got old / reconditioned items ??????
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 10, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
The bolts are generally M10 x 1.5 mm pitch x 48mm but I have one box in my collection that isn't, it looks a similar pitch but slightly smaller diameter.

I'd swear it's 3/8" unc but I haven't got a bolt to try in it. Possibly a pattern TRW box of US origin still using Imperial fasteners?

Edit: Yes, definitely 3/8 unc, damn Yankees!
So that'll make them 3/8 unc by about 1 3/4" long.



Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 11, 2024, 08:57:57 AM
Quote from: Manxdavid on February 10, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
The bolts are generally M10 x 1.5 mm pitch x 48mm but I have one box in my collection that isn't, it looks a similar pitch but slightly smaller diameter.

I'd swear it's 3/8" unc but I haven't got a bolt to try in it. Possibly a pattern TRW box of US origin still using Imperial fasteners?

Edit: Yes, definitely 3/8 unc, damn Yankees!
So that'll make them 3/8 unc by about 1 3/4" long.

Well that was a surprise as I always thought Beetle stuff was Metric  ???
However, just pulled a 3/8 unc bolt from my Bike (US Import) and it fits a treat  ;-)up

Nice one, wouldn't have thought of that   ;-)(-;
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 11, 2024, 12:51:50 PM
I just looked in daylight and surprisingly it's a genuine VW box that has the unc threads, most odd  :-\

The US derived (if not made) TRW box has regular M10 threads.
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 11, 2024, 01:30:49 PM
Just dug out an old knackered rusty but genuine VW box here, and that uses the same UNC bolts too

that makes sense though, as instead of listing a metric bolt size, everyone's websites just say out of stock -

seen some silly prices for them too using the VW part number, anything up to £6 each + shipping !!   ;D

Now I know its a standard bolt, I can rummage around the garage for one - my old GMC used to drop them all over the yard, so one of them must fit  ;)

Still hunting for that flange though  ???
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 11, 2024, 02:35:26 PM
I had a good hunt but can only find the opposite one with the male splines. Sorry!

£3.25 for 2 with free shipping?






(https://i.postimg.cc/hjTQHZb9/Screenshot-20240211-143356.png) (https://postimg.cc/9RXf9pkM)
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 11, 2024, 02:52:14 PM
I found a flange if any good? When you say 'good internal threads' I'm not quite with you. They're smooth inside, the only splines are on the shaft, any that look splined have just picked up 'witness marks'.

Just message me your address of you want it.


(https://i.postimg.cc/TYF0MFns/IMG-20240211-144730.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JG3ZjT63)
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 11, 2024, 02:57:17 PM
Yes please mate - perfect   ;-)up

I didn't realise they were smooth inside - I thought splined to match the outer  ???

That makes my life even easier then - PM incoming   ;-)up
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Krug on February 13, 2024, 12:11:16 PM
Heritage have a couple in stock at the mo - https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/ac415001-steering-box-and-shaft-coupler.html?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw6yuBhDrARIsACf94RVk3FIksfvw0n9syko7ioN3405MyCqgRXFsR3w0IZsqYYDyCY2oQxcaAuYGEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 13, 2024, 12:17:18 PM
Thanks for the spot Krug, but most of the aftermarket ones seem to be made from cheesium which is why I was after a genuine one.

Now solved thanks to the kindness from ManxDavid in sending me one to play with   ;-)up
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 13, 2024, 12:55:31 PM
How much???

'kinell!!!  :-\ :-\ :-\


(https://i.postimg.cc/Pfz8mtHT/Screenshot-20240213-125403.png) (https://postimg.cc/jC25TYCF)
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: snoopy on February 13, 2024, 05:16:49 PM
Parts prices are getting silly 3mm x 22mm screws for indicator switch £2.50 each I got 12 plus postage for less than £8
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Krug on February 13, 2024, 06:05:04 PM
Yeh I was a bit shocked at the price as well.   The Chrome ones are a bit cheaper which surprised me as they normally charge more for them.  I guess plating cheese must have got cheaper  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Paul1953 on February 15, 2024, 10:06:04 AM
I have seen two chrome plated aftermarket ones break apart well before VW`s quoted torque setting was reached. Says it all to me  8) 8)
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 15, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: Paul1953 on February 15, 2024, 10:06:04 AM
I have seen two chrome plated aftermarket ones break apart well before VW`s quoted torque setting was reached. Says it all to me  8) 8)

I think those chrome ones should be treated in the same way as the Red Ring of Death as the quality is just plain dangerous   >:(
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 15, 2024, 02:49:10 PM
ManxDavid - You are an absolute star -

Parcel just arrived and THANK YOU VERY MUCH  ;-)up ;-)up ;-)up ;-)up

Charity of choice down here is the local Air Ambulance, and I will be sure to pass on my gratitude on your behalf  ;)

;-)(-;
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Manxdavid on February 15, 2024, 03:24:53 PM
I love it when a plan comes together.

Sorry if they're a bit mucky but they've been lurking in the darkest recesses of my trailer marinating in gear oil  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wanted - Steering Box Bolts and Lower Flang Coupling
Post by: Dave DND on February 15, 2024, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Manxdavid on February 15, 2024, 03:24:53 PM
I love it when a plan comes together.

Sorry if they're a bit mucky but they've been lurking in the darkest recesses of my trailer marinating in gear oil  ;D ;D ;D

Perfect for what I have in mind  ;-)up