One of the things that I want to improve on after the crash is the way the seats are fixed. Currently this is what I have

This is upside, the flat bar was under the pan.

Like this


The problem is the bar is Ali and this happened 


The underneath of the seats are like this


The blog you can see was the one that pulled out of the Ali bar.

Now, flatlands do seat wedges but will they work with this seats and will they bolt into the pan which have the wedge runners for Beetle seats, 67 pan, not the big seat bulges of 70's pans.
Will the flatland ones conflict with the original runners on the pan?
I hope all this makes sense

Cheers

Dav

are these the beetle runners on the pan you we,re talking about ?




i used flatlands wedges with the bolt holes for the pan turned inwards to miss the pan runners and used sliding runners between the wedges and the seats

Then underneath the pan strengthened with 6mm flat bar

Yes they're the beetle runners I'm on about.

Thanks, that looks great, the seats already have mechanisms for sliding so I should be able to use the flatlands wedges and bolt them to the pan, using strengthening if I need.

Thanks

Just cut the original runners off if you're not using them.

the seats already have mechanisms for sliding so I should be able to use the flatlands wedges and bolt them to the pan

I think maybe,  if you were able to get a length of tube, 25 x 12 ish, you could weld them across the front and rear end of the fixed runners making
a rigid base, then bolt them straight down on the floor slightly inboard of the runner...

Peter

That's plan B David, time is not on my side if I want to make tatton, so was hoping not to have to cut runners off.

Peter - can I ask why you suggested circular section?

Ohh........... 

I was meaning 25 x 12 x 2 or something like that, rectangular box section

Peter

like Peter says ours have thick walled steel box sections across the pan from outer lip to tunnel bolted through the pan ( with plates under neat) and the seats on top, on one the rear bar is 8mm X 35mm plate welded to the pan then drilled and tapped for the seat runner bolts.
as you found out avoid aluminium it is to soft.

Cheers Peter, my misunderstanding 

That's great snoopy, yes the Ali was not my doing, but the previous owner. 

So my choice is steel bar welded to the runners, or flatlands wedges.
I'm sure the bar will be cheaper

Thanks for everyone's help

Off to the body shell chap tomorrow for updates on the shell

Dav

I'm sure the bar will be cheaper

I suspect it will 

I've got a 31 inch length of 2"x1" box section steel if that's of any use? Quite thick. Sorry, I can't think in metric tonight.

Cheers David, I'll bear it in mind, not sure of the size I'll need excatly.
Yours is 50x25mm in youth speak 

Sounds similar to the setup I just fitted in Tango.

Section of 2"x1" box cut to fit across pan (Between tunnel and side) roughly between the standard seat belt fixing and the back of the handbrake. Long bolts go from the rear of seat runner through this box, through the pan and then have re-enforcing plates under the pan made from 3mm plates.

With my particular seat I didn't need the front lifted by box/wedges so the bolts go straight through the pan and through 3mm plate again under the pan.

Felt like it was stronger, simpler and easier to figure out than wedges  - and didn't cost anything 

Cheers,

Paul.

Yours is 50x25mm in youth speak

I have been working and using the metric system ever since I was 19......

Youth Speak, my arse!

Dogged resistance is more like it! 

Peter

It amazes me that US sourced parts for VWs like Sway a Way stuff etc. still use unified threads, good job I've still got some AF Allen keys...