1600 to 1776 conversion

Started by Myfirstbuggy, June 19, 2022, 09:30:50 PM

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Currently rebuilding a 1600TP and I was wondering if it's worth upgrading to a 1776 , adding the cost of new barrels/pistons and the machining required to the case and cylinder heads is it a worthwhile operation ?
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Have you driven a buggy with a 1600 tp? Most think it's perfectly adequate for a car so light with quirky handling.

If you're going so far as to build a 1776 you may as well factor in a decent cam c/w followers, steel pushrods, bolt together valve gear, 3 angle valve job, h/d valve springs, 8 dowel crank and dynamic balancing etc

It depends on the depth of your pockets and (these days esp) parts availability.
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I would either keep the 1600 and stick a big set of carbs on it as 1776, whilst a worthwhile upgrade, is just getting to be eyewateringly expensive to do - If you want more grunt and more cubes, then why not stick a 2 litre Type 4 or T25 in there - far easier and cheaper option for more power.

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A 1600 or 1641 (whichever is cheaper) engine with twin 40 Kadron Solex (or whatever they're called now that Empi make them) or twin 34ict Webers and a decent 4 into 1 exhaust can be a great buggy engine.
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I'm going to be against everyone else :D just as I can! If the case is good and all the parts are good why not" If U are buying new P/b anyway there is about £100 in them and £200? for machine work.. And you will end up with a low rpm 1776cc By doing it you have made back the £300 just in resell.. If you did end up selling it as 1776cc are all ways wanted.. And bits can be added like a nice Cam. Head's.etc  And to top it off you can say you got a 1776cc ..
Do not be offended by my spelling mistakes! Why asking tech? questions" As so far I have not asked Any,, Everyone fort it was in possible apart from the One who invented it..

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Quote from: IDA on June 20, 2022, 11:01:30 PM
I'm going to be against everyone else :D just as I can! If the case is good and all the parts are good why not" If U are buying new P/b anyway there is about £100 in them and £200? for machine work.. And you will end up with a low rpm 1776cc By doing it you have made back the £300 just in resell.. If you did end up selling it as 1776cc are all ways wanted.. And bits can be added like a nice Cam. Head's.etc  And to top it off you can say you got a 1776cc ..
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The most fun buggy that I ever had was a swb GP on 7" banded steel wheels, E70VR15 Jag remoulds and a standard apart from dual cannons, 1200 motor. Such a lovely little thrashable engine! Loads of fun and would still have been perfect for today's roads of speed bumps, 20mph limits and speed camera vans... :-\

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Quote from: Manxdavid on June 21, 2022, 10:02:26 AM
The most fun buggy that I ever had was a swb GP on 7" banded steel wheels, E70VR15 Jag remoulds and a standard apart from dual cannons, 1200 motor. Such a lovely little thrashable engine! Loads of fun and would still have been perfect for today's roads of speed bumps, 20mph limits and speed camera vans... :-\



I think that you need to get out more  ;D


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Quote from: IDA on June 20, 2022, 11:01:30 PM
I'm going to be against everyone else :D just as I can! If the case is good and all the parts are good why not" If U are buying new P/b anyway there is about £100 in them and £200? for machine work.. And you will end up with a low rpm 1776cc By doing it you have made back the £300 just in resell.. If you did end up selling it as 1776cc are all ways wanted.. And bits can be added like a nice Cam. Head's.etc  And to top it off you can say you got a 1776cc ..

If you are going to machine for a 1776 , you might as well go for a 1914  ;-)up

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