Ok , here's one ! What do ,the winter buggy driving afficionados wear for warmth and comfort when out and about ? Bearing in mind , the manta ray has no hood or proper screen, just a pair of small folding aero screens. Just ordered a leather biker type jacket as I didn't want anything too bulky but wants to stop the wind. Any do's ,dont's possibles, Nevers, or personal reccomendations or preferences? ;-)up
Has to be one of our Fleeces
http://www.beachbuggy.info/beachbuggyclub/merchandise/bbi-fleece
Or even the new range of Sweatshirts coming very soon ;-)up
Quote from: Dave DND on November 28, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Has to be one of our Fleeces
http://www.beachbuggy.info/beachbuggyclub/merchandise/bbi-fleece
Or even the new range of Sweatshirts coming very soon ;-)up
Plus a Gerbing heated jacket and gloves
See Peter's site
Have a look at Chad's soft shell jacket - on the Home page search ' Midland Buggy Club Embroidered Apparel '.
These jackets are waterproof, have collars and velcro sleeves to reduce draughts and so stop the air cooling which means they are all you need in the summer and can have one of Dave DNDs buggy fleeces underneath in the winter. If you get one with a MBC logo you'll be part of a diverse and accepting club and feel slightly more legitimate when driving in a buggy !
We tend to be a bit tougher oop north, beachwear's fine for us! ;D
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Well David looks like you have some impressive and stylish pork chop side burns going on there, and I'm equally impressed with hos your trunks match the body colour !
More seriously I assume those tyres are special tread that is best for sand ?
Quote from: Manxdavid on November 29, 2016, 10:00:14 AM
We tend to be a bit tougher oop north, beachwear's fine for us! ;D
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Not that tough, got a roof and windows ;D
Quote from: Hugh on November 29, 2016, 11:14:12 AM
More seriously I assume those tyres are special tread that is best for sand ?
They are. Ribbed for your sand driving pleasure.
Quote from: FireDancer on December 01, 2016, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hugh on November 29, 2016, 11:14:12 AM
More seriously I assume those tyres are special tread that is best for sand ?
They are. Ribbed for your sand driving pleasure.
...but dated 'best before 1971'...
Assuming the pre 1971 rubber wasn't perished would the tread be road legal ?
As long as the road was a beach.
Quote from: FireDancer on December 01, 2016, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hugh on November 29, 2016, 11:14:12 AM
More seriously I assume those tyres are special tread that is best for sand ?
They are. Ribbed for your sand driving pleasure.
;D ;D ;D
Well the expression goes that 'Life's a beach' so why shouldn't all roads have sand on them.
It would level the playing field between normal traffic and drivers of beach buggys.
You want a game changer ?
I have been quite surprised at how few buggy drivers use this stuff, it rewrites the rules as far as driving a buggy in winter,
or any time really, goes. I use a Girbing sleeveless jacket and occasionally gloves...
It was -6 outside today and as usual I set off for work at 6.55am, I decided to have the jacket on full blast for a change and by the time I was at Sevenoaks I had dialed it down to 50% as I was literally boiling.
I have found after many years use that my gloves are only needed when it gets really cold, say -14... I wear the jacket on top of
a Tee shirt and just have my work fleece on top of it.
Because its an unbelievably hot outside source of heat, your body quite frankly doesn't lose any and just gets warmer ... ;-)up
and hands dont get cold either due to the blood being so warm, which is why I dont need the gloves very often.
The price may seem high but in a way its incredibly cheap, you can wear it all year if you want, even on cold summer nights after a heatwave during the day, just enjoy things and be comfy all the time... ;D
I wonder about all the crap said about not getting cold, if we sit and drive all day in cold weather we lose body heat eventually so wont be feeling the 'warmth', warmth which is only available because our bodies have lost it into the clothing. Its your lost body heat that you feel...
So, if you want something that actually works, this is it! ;D 8)
By the way, all the Girbing stuff is guaranteed for 'life'! :)
Peter
Quote from: Peter on December 01, 2016, 10:03:48 PM
You want a game changer ?
I have been quite surprised at how few buggy drivers use this stuff, it rewrites the rules as far as driving a buggy in winter,
or any time really, goes. I use a Girbing sleeveless jacket and occasionally gloves...
It was -6 outside today and as usual I set off for work at 6.55am, I decided to have the jacket on full blast for a change and by the time I was at Sevenoaks I had dialed it down to 50% as I was literally boiling.
I have found after many years use that my gloves are only needed when it gets really cold, say -14... I wear the jacket on top of
a Tee shirt and just have my work fleece on top of it.
Pete.... have just googled Gerbing and perused the website. There appears to be a sleeveless jacket "new for 2016\17". I know yours will be a prior version but can you give me any idea of the amps drawn by the jacket and gloves when both in full warm up. Cannot see anything on the site. Up in my neck of the woods we see -10oC often throughout the winter. ;-)(-;
Because its an unbelievably hot outside source of heat, your body quite frankly doesn't lose any and just gets warmer ... ;-)up
and hands dont get cold either due to the blood being so warm, which is why I dont need the gloves very often.
The price may seem high but in a way its incredibly cheap, you can wear it all year if you want, even on cold summer nights after a heatwave during the day, just enjoy things and be comfy all the time... ;D
I wonder about all the crap said about not getting cold, if we sit and drive all day in cold weather we lose body heat eventually so wont be feeling the 'warmth', warmth which is only available because our bodies have lost it into the clothing. Its your lost body heat that you feel...
So, if you want something that actually works, this is it! ;D 8)
By the way, all the Girbing stuff is guaranteed for 'life'! :)
Peter
Agree with Peter, cheaper than a set of Chinese chrome wheels that last five minutes
Hi Paul,
I have both types of jacket and from experience can definitely say I only need
the sleeveless one, I use it everyday...
I have got one of the Girbing 'long' Y cables and that gives me the chance to run the gloves
on their own or be able to take them off and drop them on the passenger seat.
I hook the gloves up to a second power lead direct to the battery and dont use a controller with them.
My sleeveless jacket is connected to a 'single' controller which has 4 heat settings. Connecting the jacket
direct to the battery will give you 100% heat all the time, which is very hot...
Here is the power rating chart, the sleeveless jacket draws 4.5 amps and the gloves 2.2 (the pair)!
Give Girbing a ring, they are great people to deal with ;-)up But remind them that a power lead is free with 'every' bit of kit you buy,
they sometimes forget that, I think the 'Junior controller is also free with the gloves, so ask about that too...
You will need a 'Single controller to run the jacket at different heat settings...
This stuff is worth every penny and enables very very long hauls in winter to be under taken... ;-)up
Great in Summer too ;D ;-)(-;
QuoteAgree with Peter, cheaper than a set of Chinese chrome wheels that last five minutes
Thanks, I am glad someone noticed that! ;-)up
Peter
http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/index.php?album=HeatedJacket
(http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/albums/HeatedJacket/slides/Fuse%20Chart.jpg)
I use a double controller mounted on teh tunnel with colour coded plugs for jacket and gloves with variable settings for each, lovely
Quote from: Peter on December 02, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Hi Paul,
I have both types of jacket and from experience can definitely say I only need
the sleeveless one, I use it everyday...
I have got one of the Girbing 'long' Y cables and that gives me the chance to run the gloves
on their own or be able to take them off and drop them on the passenger seat.
I hook the gloves up to a second power lead direct to the battery and dont use a controller with them.
My sleeveless jacket is connected to a 'single' controller which has 4 heat settings. Connecting the jacket
direct to the battery will give you 100% heat all the time, which is very hot...
Here is the power rating chart, the sleeveless jacket draws 4.5 amps and the gloves 2.2 (the pair)!
Give Girbing a ring, they are great people to deal with ;-)up But remind them that a power lead is free with 'every' bit of kit you buy,
they sometimes forget that, I think the 'Junior controller is also free with the gloves, so ask about that too...
You will need a 'Single controller to run the jacket at different heat settings...
This stuff is worth every penny and enables very very long hauls in winter to be under taken... ;-)up
Great in Summer too ;D ;-)(-;
QuoteAgree with Peter, cheaper than a set of Chinese chrome wheels that last five minutes
Thanks, I am glad someone noticed that! ;-)up
Peter
http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/index.php?album=HeatedJacket
(http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/albums/HeatedJacket/slides/Fuse%20Chart.jpg)
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Thanks Peter. I appreciate when on a tight budget money matters but the cost of these jackets etc is far less than I would have expected and have to be worth every penny they cost. The big surprise is the wattage of these things, really minimal, a brill` thing though because this means much lower amps draw than I was expecting. I did spend a full winter driving my first buggy and this had no heating of any kind. Bit too old now to put up with it now without a bit of warmth. I have seen higher than standard output alternators on the "aftermarket". Do you know if these are any good?
Hi Paul
I dont know about how good the aftermarket alternators are I'm afraid.
However, I have had my Girbing stuff for quite a few years now, I run a Bosch dynamo
and have never once had any issues with charging or flat batteries, I use it daily in winter, dark mornings and evenings,
day in day out, the amp draw of the Girbing gear is less than my headlights I think.
It was originally designed for Bikers and now Girbing supply many countries armed forces, Land Sea and Air in the USA and here in
England, plus many in Europe.
I hope you are happy with it, when you first use it at full blast you will know what I mean by being cosy and warm ;-)up
Peter
Well before I go off the road for winter (proper cold) I wear my RAF sheepskin. Just a t-shirt under that, usual scarf and helmet. Thick socks double pants and sturdy jeans.
Quote from: Dave-Dream on December 05, 2016, 11:42:35 PM
Well before I go off the road for winter (proper cold) I wear my RAF sheepskin. Just a t-shirt under that, usual scarf and helmet. Thick socks double pants and sturdy jeans.
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Another memory stirred Dave... back in the early seventies raf sheepskin jackets were available at any ex army shop in newspaper adverts etc for peanuts. This is what I used. Collar up and the fleece round my ears.
Quote from: Paul1953 on December 06, 2016, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: Dave-Dream on December 05, 2016, 11:42:35 PM
Well before I go off the road for winter (proper cold) I wear my RAF sheepskin. Just a t-shirt under that, usual scarf and helmet. Thick socks double pants and sturdy jeans.
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Another memory stirred Dave... back in the early seventies raf sheepskin jackets were available at any ex army shop in newspaper adverts etc for peanuts. This is what I used. Collar up and the fleece round my ears.
I also have a WW2 sheepskin lined leather Flying jacket. Mine is French - bought from a fellow student in the seventies for £15. The chances of me fitting into it now are 3/5 of 2/10 of sweet Fanny Adams ;D
Was out yesterday heated jacket on 3, toasty.
Bit warmer today so going out in a minute will have to drop the setting to 2
Not cold enough, or going far enough, for the heated gloves or ski trousers yet
As long as you can put a Hawaiian shirt on top ;)
Quote from: apmaman on December 06, 2016, 01:32:16 PM
As long as you can put a Hawaiian shirt on top ;)
You know me then ;D ;D
Bumping this for the winter. Might just me who needs the reminder of the heated attire but if anyone else was thinking about it...
Made by Gerbing
http://www.gerbing.eu/en (http://www.gerbing.eu/en)
Don`t forget about these
http://www.beachbuggy.info/beachbuggyclub/merchandise/bbi-fleece/
;-)up
I am a firm believer of t-shirts or anything loudly floral.
However, doing a few of the long trips (400+ miles in a onner) I generally wear ski socks, trainers, jeans, tshirt a decent 3-1 jacket and a tammy. The jackets a karrimor waterproof and wind proof outer and fleecey inner that can come out on its own.
The Mrs is generally the same, but she likes a little blanket as well to help stop the wind chills on the legs.
After IBW we always take waterproof over trousers and jackets just encase.
Also, if you are doing long trips look into heated seat covers. a cheap alternative to a heated jacket, but obviously not as good.
Kilts are mandatory for any international event
Quote from: Doon L001 on September 10, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
Made by Gerbing
http://www.gerbing.eu/en (http://www.gerbing.eu/en)
Perfect ;-)up
I thought I would put a direct link up, though people may feel this sort
of thing is expensive, it really isn't and though there are many things we can all
wear in our buggy's during the winter months nothing even remotely comes close.
The thing is, however comfy we all are whilst wearing 'normal' clothing to keep warm,
once the line has been crossed as far as lost body heat goes then you just start to shiver
and eventually seize up, well, almost! ;D
I do hope someone takes a look at these jackets, mine literally pumps heat back into my body
so I never shiver or get cold due to inactivity whilst driving, in fact its the other way as I over heat
and end up dialling it down ;-)up
My sleeveless top is many years old now, has been used every day, it works as well now as it
did when it was new and I have no electrical issues with it whatsoever... It's amazing stuff, that
for once, in a world literally rammed full of utterly awful cheap and nasty crap, does exactly what its been designed to do
and is quite honestly the best thing I ever bought for use in my bug, by far! ;-)up
Peter
https://gerbing.co.uk/products/12v-product-range/jackets-trousers.html
(http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/albums/HeatedJacket/slides/10.jpg)
Quote from: Peter on September 17, 2017, 09:19:09 AM
I thought I would put a direct link up, though people may feel this sort
of thing is expensive, it really isn't and though there are many things we can all
wear in our buggy's during the winter months nothing even remotely comes close.
The thing is, however comfy we all are whilst wearing 'normal' clothing to keep warm,
once the line has been crossed as far as lost body heat goes then you just start to shiver
and eventually seize up, well, almost! ;D
I do hope someone takes a look at these jackets, mine literally pumps heat back into my body
Pete... wonder if I should get mine now. Way things are going with my build, or that should say lack of build, I am looking at another long winter in the garage ;D ;D
so I never shiver or get cold due to inactivity whilst driving, in fact its the other way as I over heat
and end up dialling it down ;-)up
My sleeveless top is many years old now, has been used every day, it works as well now as it
did when it was new and I have no electrical issues with it whatsoever... It's amazing stuff, that
for once, in a world literally rammed full of utterly awful cheap and nasty crap, does exactly what its been designed to do
and is quite honestly the best thing I ever bought for use in my bug, by far! ;-)up
Peter
https://gerbing.co.uk/products/12v-product-range/jackets-trousers.html
(http://www.manxmaniac.co.uk/albums/HeatedJacket/slides/10.jpg)