I have a Mantaray MkII buggy with a 1.7 engine sticking out ot the rear. I'd like to fit a rear bumper or cage to keep the curious public and objects from getting contact with the moving and/or hot parts. Does anyone have something suitable or that could easily be adapted please ?
Thanks, Hugh
I'd add a picture except I haven't yet worked out how to insert one !
Hi mate,
I have one which has been played with over the years but could be cleaned up. I have the top mounts and sure I have the bottom also but need to have a quick look for them. I even have the other indicator if you want it so you can turn right as well as left ;-)up£25
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pm me if any good.
cheers
carlos
Thanks Carlos.
Yes it looks easy enough to clean up and adapt if it'll fit. Could you kindly give a few dimensions like the length of the attachment arms and the width/gap sizes at their ends ?
My engine sticks out a fair way so my main concern is having attachment arms long enough to reach a fixing point. (I've tried pasting an image but I can't make the image appear in this reply box so will try emailing it to your members email...)
Thanks for the time in sending the photos etc.
Hugh
hi Hugh,
It mounts to the standard points at the top of the shock towers and the rear frame horns. The top to the inside of the bar is 75cm deep with the bottom being 50cm. The mounts will add a little to this as well but not too much.
Hope this helps.
Carlos
Hi Hugh,
To post pictures you have to first host the picture on something like Photobucket then post up the image link. You can't simply attach a picture.
Better info how to do it can be found on this link
http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,190.0.html
Chad
Thanks Chad extremely helpful link to Photobucket etc. I'm uploading an image of my engine to prove I can use the system. Hugh
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I could be wrong, but I think you'll struggle to fit that type of rear cage around that engine/exhaust set up. I think it will need to sit too far back from the mounting points on the gearbox and shocker tops. What does anyone else think?
Thanks BuggyBaggy.
I tend to agree with you but hoped I'd be able to weld extensions/adapt a cage somehow..... The protruding exhast doesn't help matters but given where the manifolds are a change of exhaust system might not noticably shorten the protruding pipe work ?
It got through an MOT recently in this state but I suspect it's not going to pass at every MOT station and besides it does look questionable on the H&S front.
Opinions and ideas all welcome.
Thanks,
Hugh
You will have to extend the bars by a few inches to make it fit, but everything is in a straight line and should not be traumatic.
Just done exactly the same on mine ;-)up
http://www.beachbuggy.info/index.php/topic,20.msg63811.html#msg63811
Just watch your dipstick and oil filler access - mine is a Type25 and yours is a Type4 engine
Thanks Dave. From my limited look around this vast and well oiled web site (love the enthusiasm, welcoming nature and sense of activity it has) I get the impression you are either The Big Cheese or at least one of the High Priests of the whole operation. Thus I'm flattered to be receiving useful advice from a Head Honcho.
I am only an amateur owner of this Mantaray and most subtlties will be lost on me - e.g. I assume a Type 25 engine is newer, more refined/better than a Type 4. However what you have done looks like you have taken off what I call the expansion boxes of the exhaust system to fit your cage. If I do this I will get the cage on more easily but then need to have a radically different exhaust pipe layout. Hence I will be interested to see how you resolve your exhaust system.
Regards,
Hugh
;D ;D Flattery will get you everywhere ;-)up
Type 25 is the 2 litre version from the 79~82 Transporter, initially looks identical, but very different (as I have found out) when you try bolting bits on. - Type4 engine that you have there has a dipstick right where the cage bar comes downwards (my dipstick is on the top), which is something you will have to contend with, also the oil filler pipe is right in the way too (mine bends to the left out of the way) - not an issue if the cage is a bit longer, but I wanted mine nice and close to the engine. There is loads of room underneath for the two cage lower bars, and they do not foul the engine or exhaust in any way. I`m fitting dual cannons to mine, so will ditch everything that you can currently see and exhaust will exit sideways.
Bottom line is that if you can extend the cage about 6 inches in length on each of those four bars, then it will probably fit - but that will ultimately depend on your choice of exhausts, as the rear box is going to be the limiting factor.
Quote from: Hugh on February 23, 2015, 05:03:38 PM
Thanks Dave........ I get the impression you are either The Big Cheese or at least one of the High Priests of the whole operation.
Yes, it's all Dave fault ;D ;D ;D
(Why do I feel a 30 day ban coming my way :D )
;D ;D ;D
Again thanks for the education and tips about dip sticks etc. As I said I will be interested to see how how configure your exhaust.
Hugh
Hi Hugh,I had a buggy with same engine as yours and that type of cage fitted with no problems.As has been said you may have to extend those arms a bit but should be no problem.
What type of exhaust did you have ? I'm now thinking I should get rid of the 'expansion boxes' so the cage can fit closer to the engine like Dave (above) has done. I'll then probably be posting on here for an exhaust system that fits this Type 4 manifold and doesn't project much further rearwards....
I appreciate your input.