not sure if this is the right section to ask,
just reading a thread about stingers on a beetle.
what do you think the legalities are with my exhaust, apart from not seeing the reg plate which i will be moving anyways,
Tim who built it said it was the only advisory he had on the MOT,
but apart from that, the exhaust is sticky up and out, I dont want to really have any heat rap on it.
ideally, I would like a different design from Mike, but thats out of my reach for the near future, so im stuck with this one,
so do you think it would be a pull over and points ?
the top photo hasnt got the rear cage, this was taken by Tim before it was finished and fitted.
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt115/negativepitch/Aint%20it%20Funky/42.jpg)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt115/negativepitch/Aint%20it%20Funky/7-1.jpg)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt115/negativepitch/Aint%20it%20Funky/711.jpg)
folks do run them and have no problems but that may just be down to luck.
you could cut the upright pipe and get a downwards bend fitted to the side a fit the silencer.
I had one never a problem but they are sold as off road use only ;-)up
Quote from: snoopy on April 28, 2013, 06:39:46 PM
folks do run them and have no problems but that may just be down to luck.
you could cut the upright pipe and get a downwards bend fitted to the side a fit the silencer.
the only problem I see with that is the bend starts from where the merge header ends,
at one time I would have liked to have had the spark arrestor sticking straight up, but as I say, theres no straight part on it ,
it would mean cutting off the pipe after the header and having a new piece welded on, so that would have to be the same option for your idea Snoop.
Quote from: Big Clem on April 28, 2013, 06:43:20 PM
I had one never a problem but they are sold as off road use only ;-)up
did yours stick straight up ?
Im worried because as well as sticking up, it is also angled back, so as well as burning your hands etc on the pipe sticking up, you might also walk into it as it sticks out aswell ;D
You may not get hassle from the Plod or at MOT time but if someone's precious little prince or princess walked into it or touched it and burned themselves while you were parked I recon they'd have a cast iron case for sueing your arse off...God knows what it'd cost you!!!
You must realise that it's well dodgy or you wouldn't have asked the question.
Quote from: Manxdavid on April 28, 2013, 07:54:01 PM
You may not get hassle from the Plod or at MOT time but if someone's precious little prince or princess walked into it or touched it and burned themselves while you were parked I recon they'd have a cast iron case for sueing your arse off...God knows what it'd cost you!!!
You must realise that it's well dodgy or you wouldn't have asked the question.
yes, trouble is, I dont have the cash to change it.
Quote from: Steve on April 28, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: Big Clem on April 28, 2013, 06:43:20 PM
I had one never a problem but they are sold as off road use only ;-)up
did yours stick straight up ?
Im worried because as well as sticking up, it is also angled back, so as well as burning your hands etc on the pipe sticking up, you might also walk into it as it sticks out aswell ;D
The same but with on arrester on some pics in members buggy love the look but drove me nuts on long run out new one from mike is much quieter
Quote from: Big Clem on April 28, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 28, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: Big Clem on April 28, 2013, 06:43:20 PM
I had one never a problem but they are sold as off road use only ;-)up
did yours stick straight up ?
Im worried because as well as sticking up, it is also angled back, so as well as burning your hands etc on the pipe sticking up, you might also walk into it as it sticks out aswell ;D
The same but with on arrester on some pics in members buggy love the look but drove me nuts on long run out new one from mike is much quieter
its the case of its never going to get on the road then, I have more important things that need to come first,
its to the point of not even being able to have chad to come down to sort my wiring out (no Im not looking for a freeB here)
its been sat in the garage for a good few years, another few wont matter ;D
Not feeling sorry for myself here, just being realistic.
On ace run last year I had just parked up and some woman grabed hold of my exhaust befor I could say dont touch that :o waited for the scream and loss of skin :( but nothing when she moved I touched exhast and was just warm we was amazed how quick it had cooled but it could have been so different you would thing it obvious not to touch but not every one has the brains they were born with :D
Quote from: Big Clem on April 28, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
On ace run last year I had just parked up and some woman grabed hold of my exhaust befor I could say dont touch that :o waited for the scream and loss of skin :( but nothing when she moved I touched exhast and was just warm we was amazed how quick it had cooled but it could have been so different you would thing it obvious not to touch but not every one has the brains they were born with :D
I dont know..I have gone to grab the exhaust on both mine and my wifes daily a few times ??? ??? ;D ;D
To be honest I am not sure that yours is any different to mine in that my merged system is all nicely tucked in under the rear cage but still in easy reach of sticky fingers.
When I park up I always get out as quick as I can and guard the back until it has cooled a bit, its such a bind getting burned skin off stainless ;D
To some extent that is one of the risks of having a buggy, whatever system you have the tubes coming off the rearmost cylinders will be extremely hot, the rest of the system a bit cooler but still hot enough to make your eyes water after a decent run.
I am curious what the MOT advisory on the exhaust actually referred to, the heat risk, sticking out, or noise?
Dave
Most motor bike exhaust s are as exposed ;-)up
Quote from: Doon L001 on April 28, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
To be honest I am not sure that yours is any different to mine in that my merged system is all nicely tucked in under the rear cage but still in easy reach of sticky fingers.
When I park up I always get out as quick as I can and guard the back until it has cooled a bit, its such a bind getting burned skin off stainless ;D
To some extent that is one of the risks of having a buggy, whatever system you have the tubes coming off the rearmost cylinders will be extremely hot, the rest of the system a bit cooler but still hot enough to make your eyes water after a decent run.
I am curious what the MOT advisory on the exhaust actually referred to, the heat risk, sticking out, or noise?
Dave
not the exhaust as such as in a danger or anything dave, it just said it was hiding a clear view of the reg plate
Surely you can just put this on for the idiots?
(http://www.etched-metal.com/img/products/caution%20hot.jpg)
having worked in retaill for a good few years, you can have signs as big as a house and people will still ask where stuff is ;D
If the MOT advisory was just the obscured number plate then if you sort that out you ought to be OK.
Clem has a good point about bike exhausts, only real difference is that anyone crossing the road behind a bike in traffic cant touch the hot bits easily. You have a cage on, that should stop accidental burns, if anyone is then stupid enough to stick their hand in - well.
Get the plate sorted and you have a reason to get stopped so probably wont.
Dave
Quote from: Sandrailer on April 28, 2013, 10:13:36 PM
Surely you can just put this on for the idiots?
(http://www.etched-metal.com/img/products/caution%20hot.jpg)
This is a red rag to some people (idiots) and may as well say hold on tight until you smell burning flesh
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say hold on tight until you smell burning flesh
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;D ;D
I have always thought putting a danger/caution sign on would mean you recognise there is a problem and that helps point it out to the plod by telling them about something they may not even consider as dangerous.
Quote from: snoopy on April 29, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
I have always thought putting a danger/caution sign on would mean you recognise there is a problem and that helps point it out to the plod by telling them about something they may not even consider as dangerous.
good point
Quote from: snoopy on April 29, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
I have always thought putting a danger/caution sign on would mean you recognise there is a problem and that helps point it out to the plod by telling them about something they may not even consider as dangerous.
very good point,
i'd also guess that in your typical 'I burnt my fingers so its a 'no win no fee' court case
the signage would surely be seen as an admission of guilt
as you must of accepted there was a risk to someone to of put it there
sometimes ignorance is bliss ;-)up
Health and Safety world we live in means you are guilty if you don't brief an idiot ::)
The Golden arches first got sued due to their coffee burning someones mouth, the top of this now has 'Caution Hot' to stop any more claims.
Nanny state and all that. I hate the fact that no-one seems to have common sense any more and everyone else takes the blame.
THATS IT!!!!...I suing Dave..nothing on the front of the forum says "danger, may become addictive"
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
THATS IT!!!!...I suing Dave..nothing on the front of the forum says "danger, may become addictive"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sorry chaps, I went all Orient for a moment then,
QuoteI suing Dave
when it should have read, I'm suing Dave ;D
quote.
Most motor bike exhaust s are as exposed ;-)up
there completely different contruction regulations there ??? ???
Quote from: grissley on May 02, 2013, 08:27:04 PM
quote.
Most motor bike exhaust s are as exposed ;-)up
there completely different contruction regulations there ??? ???
do tell :)..I havent got a clue
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
THATS IT!!!!...I suing Dave..nothing on the front of the forum says "danger, may become addictive"
That should be on the dashboard of ALL buggies ;-)up
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
sorry chaps, I went all Orient for a moment then, QuoteI suing Dave
when it should have read, I'm suing Dave ;D
Yeah baby . . . Bring it on . . . (http://www.dndservices.co.uk/smiley/emoticon-00172-mooning.gif)
;D ;D
Quote from: Dave DND on May 03, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
sorry chaps, I went all Orient for a moment then, QuoteI suing Dave
when it should have read, I'm suing Dave ;D
Yeah baby . . . Bring it on . . . (http://www.dndservices.co.uk/smiley/emoticon-00172-mooning.gif)
;D ;D
bring it on and showing your bottom...you will be getting Andre from the salon all of a fluster :D
I agree just put a small sign and your covered ..caution very hot.....if they touched mine (when it works)they would melt there fingers off lol.......steve if you dont want to use the buggy i will gladley borrow your engine with that very nice exhaust attached ha ha or you could just let me have the buggy and put mine in your garage he he ;-)up
Quote from: chris bulls head on May 04, 2013, 11:33:15 AM
I agree just put a small sign and your covered ..caution very hot.....if they touched mine (when it works)they would melt there fingers off lol.......steve if you dont want to use the buggy i will gladley borrow your engine with that very nice exhaust attached ha ha or you could just let me have the buggy and put mine in your garage he he ;-)up
;D I'll keep that in mind ;D ;D
Chris until you got your new can sorted they'd be hard pushed to know it was running let alone hot! ;D ;D ;D
ha ha the stealth buggy ...at least i could use it then ,all will be extra good soon tho ,james wootton will be giving me a call next week and then it will be super loud buggy ha ha ;-)up
Why worry about the exhaust legality, what about the rest of the buggy!
Enjoy what you have the chances of getting pulled and ticketed are very low, most stops I have come across are just to have a nose around as traffic police are by nature petrol heads and the average local bobby has no idea about road traffic regulations.