softer front end

Started by deepower, July 27, 2014, 05:38:41 PM

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deepower

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ok guys I know theres a few topics about the front suspension ,,,but  I carnt see the info I need ,, so here is is ,,
im after a softer front end (sounds so wrong    ???)  the set up at the moment is lowered shocks plus low profile tyres ,, with an adjustable beam ,, I was thinking of binning the shocks for standard ones but,  do I go for gas or oil , what make are best for softness ?? ,,, adjusting the beam up some ,, tyers I will live with for now  ,,,,,,,,,,,,what you think ? :-\
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stiffness of gas or oil is a hard one as it will be down to the settings when built. adjustable shocks are good the GAZ ones I have go from next to no pressure to move them to nearly locked solid at the other end of the adjustment scale.

deepower

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 ;-)up cheers snoopy ,, will go n have a peek at them
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a good idea with non adjustable shocks is to try them over the counter before you buy to make sure they are soft enough if you have a local outlet.

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having same problem, get rid of the low profile tyres,im going for a 60 profile, put well used but not leaking standard front shocks on or an exceptional set of adjustable gas ones on    have you an adjustable beam on
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Also you could go down the rout of cutting a leaf spring out of each of the 2 sets in the beam, there is info on this and it works well

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Just seen this has already been mentioned in another recent topic :-\

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 ;-)up cheers guys ,,  just been looking at air ride shocks ,, are these any good has any one used them ??
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Don't know if any one has used air ride on a buggy yet. Lymebug are doing kits for beetles so I would suggest getting in touch with them and see what they say.
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Hi Guys,

Just found this post and i'm having similar issues on the front.
I removed the thin leafs and the front now finally bounces !! befre it was rock solid... however the real problem seems to be the shocks.

The new oil ones are way too hard.
Apart from going adjustable shocks route .... anyone tried replacing the oil with thinner oil with standard shocks ? ??? or does that sound too drastic ? ::)

Any softer oil filled shocks you can suggest ?

Thanks

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got brake fluid in my shocks, fine.
motor bike ones should be very soft but finding a set to fit may be challenging

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one other point , lowering,drop beam dont help.   the more angled down the arms the better.

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Brake fluid ? I have read somewhere about an article written in the 60s .. removing the shock oil.... keeping 50% and thinning it with lighter fluid.

Any other alternatives ? I honestly would rather use 0 grade oil... but where can i commonly get that ?
Can i get it off the shelf ?

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Quote from: Madbuggy on October 06, 2014, 09:34:17 PM
Brake fluid ? I have read somewhere about an article written in the 60s .. removing the shock oil.... keeping 50% and thinning it with lighter fluid.

Any other alternatives ? I honestly would rather use 0 grade oil... but where can i commonly get that ?
Can i get it off the shelf ?

That article was written by Bruce Meyers in the mid 90s, he suggested thinning the oil with Barbeque lighting fluid. I have also been looking for 0 weight fork oil, it doesn't seem to be out there any more. I was thinking about using 3 in 1 oil, you can get it in Poundshops and it shouldn't take more than a few little cans.
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Hi Manxdavid,

I had previously bought a brand new shocks set.. Only to now figure out they are too hard  :-\

Its a pitty but i don't have old shocks and was thinking of modifying the new ones..at least the seals are new. I hope its worth the effort.

I tested out removing the oil off some old ford shock.. And its only got about a 100mls out of it.. so yeah in actual fact guess you don't need much.

Did you ever try it and got good results in the past ?

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