Need some advice on buying these for my buggy. Does anyone run them and no about them? they come complete with linkage filters ect. hes asking £250 for the complete kit. Is he having my pants down or a good deal?hes even throwing in a pro fuel pressure regulator currently set up for 1600 which is what im running. Fingers crossed a good deal as i need some asap.

They have stamped on them Solex H40/44EIS Brosol Brazil.

cheers guys

aiden

I know that (historically) they are not the most fuel efficient of carb set ups and can be prone to vacuum leaks if not set up correctly. manifold castings are not the best and I had to modify my set to get a happy fit. (not uncommon I understand )

I've never had a new set, only used ones and personally was never 100% happy with them.

They are certainly a cheaper option for twin carbs and I believe there is a genuine reason for that.

that said, other folk may have had a much better experience with Kadrons than I did, so I'd really suggest taking opinions from several sources before making any choices. 

Hes now offered me them for £220 im quite tempted. Even if its just to run them for a year. seen mixed reviews on them over on another forum. Good increase in hp and some say a good increase in mpg. Its hard what to choose and listen to haha.

Really simple carbs, peice of pee to set up and make good power but they do like a drink...

Linkage isn't the best and the linkage ends are crap but easily replaced with decent ball joints.

I like 'em but wouldn't pay over £150 for 'em, your call though.

ps, check the throttle shafts/spindles for wear.

Thanks for the info david. Well my dads got a engine for sale with a set of Dual Weber 34 ICT Carb Kit. Which would be the better kit as hes said if i wanted i could swap them over if i wanted then put the engine up for sale. What would be your preference? Linkage have all been freshly chromed on his aswel haha.

cheers

I only paid £120 for my Kadrons and linkages and pressure regulators can be sourced for around £30 brand new.

Not run them yet, so Jury is out, but been told that they can really drink the fuel.

Webers are a far more precise carb and the linkage will probably be better. They won't give quite the same power but will be more economical. Both sets of carbs work well on buggies though but the guy's asking more for the Kads than they probably cost when they were new.

David economical and buggys?? are they words that normally go together  . I see what your saying. Hes dropped them to £200 come with pressure regulator which i will sell on as ive got one and complete with fuel pipes ect. Theyve been re built aswel. But theres always the option if there to my dislike ill swap them for the webbers. Ive not got too many choices at the moment and dieing to get the engine in for this "heat wave" that's coming. I dont want to miss out haha.

thanks for your advice as you no im new to this so every bit of advice i get is valuble to me and i do take on board 

aiden

Personally I quite like Kadrons, they were my first set of dual carbs, I fitted them in the field at Bug Jam one year to replace the 32/36 progressive carb that was on the engine when I bought the buggy. Great fun especially as I did not remove the engine and did not have huge amount of space to play with - removing the manifold was the most fun part without actually removing the fan shroud

I don't really see why they should be thirsty, a correctly tuned engine should only take the quantity of fuel it requires - I have managed close to 100 miles to a tank regardless of what engine/carb combination I was running:

1600/single 32/36 Progressive Weber
1600/twin 40 Kadrons
1776/twin 40 Weber IDFs
2021/twin 44 Weber IDFs
2332/twin 48 Weber IDFs

I think the price is a bit high, although all carb prices have gone up in recent years.

 I have managed close to 100 miles to a tank regardless of what engine/carb combination I was running:


what size is your tank though 
Yeah ive just got a standard 1600 tp set up so ill fit them and see what they are like. Ive heard mixed reviews on the fuel side. Some say really good some say not so good 12/18 mpg    But i can all but try.

Your right with the price of carbs. Seen alot on vzi for around £400+ which i just cant afford at the moment. So i thought these would be middle of the road for not alot of money. And local so that means i can get them fitted and engine in tomorrow. 

more good advice. and a plus for the kardons. cant be all bad 

thanks pal.

I have a stock tank mounted at an angle at the front of the buggy with a centre mounted filler, so I can never actually fill it right up.

If people are getting 12-18mpg, then the engine is probably running incredibly rich and using the wrong jets - remember all engines are different - take 10 stock 1600 engines, they will all require different jetting, carbs jetted perfectly for the first of these engines may run rich on the second and lean on the third, and so on to greater or lesser degrees for each engine afterwards.

Too rich is better than too lean, but neither is ideal, and both situations should be tested and re-jetted correctly with the aid of an air/fuel ratio meter, ideally on a rolling road.

You may get lucky and they turn out to be jetted perfectly for your car (mine were pretty close), however it is just as likely that they will be way off - this is the same situation for any carb/engine combination, you can use a calculator to get close, but at the end of the day, there is no substitute for a dyno/rolling road/AR meter, etc for tuning your carbs to your engine.

I can't complain about the ones on mine I think i paid under 100 quid off eBay for the whole set up I replaced the linkage ends with Rose joints as the originals are pants but other than that can't fault them at the moment

I got a brand new pair with air cleaners and single port manifolds but no linkages for £30, sold the manifolds for £60 and got the linkage off a fire damaged engine out of the scrap bin at JMR for now't...result!!!

to be honest guys i think the 2nd hand prices of alot of vw parts are now over whats expected due to the amount of interest in classic vw's now. I sold a front complete beam arond 2 month ago for £250 he told me up until a few years ago he would have been able to buy it for around £100/£150. Its like anything the things that get more desirable and attract a big following will shoot up in price. Or on the other hand its only worth whats someones willing to pay at that precise time. I just came into the vw scene last year and looks like ill get shafted now on most parts 

aiden

I think it's being in the right place at the right time I knew what I wanted and what I wanted to spend it took a month or 3 but if your in no hurry it pays to hold out