Does anyone know if you can still get 6 volt 69mm throw crankshafts from anywhere?

Cheers Rob

guessing you have an oddball one year only 66 as the 67 model used 12v size 6V parts,my understanding is the difference is the depth of the step for fitting the flywheel on, you could use a later crank/ flywheel and dress the bell housing to clear. building up a later crank and machining it to suit the early flywheel would be a way around it.
bit like Hugh's 23mm gudgeon pin 1700 motor a rare item.

I picked up a first year 1600 type 3 66-67 long block. On stripping it down, I have found it to be a very low mileage, does not need a re-grind or line-bore So I was wondering what to do with it As it is a type 3 case, it is a sort of universal case. Does rare translate to valuable? Are people still looking for six volt engines or do they just swap to 12 volt one's?

Cheers Rob

I would rebuild as standard it would fit in a later box using a 1967  6v starter as for value there are a few original type 3's about how many are 1966 who knows.  probably to rare to be valuable as most early ones rotted out in the 70's and got broken up. A loose advert on type 3 web pages may generate some interest as a guide, it may also be worth looking into europe.

I was thinking about advertising it as a rebuilt bottom-end, with an option of having it built up to a 13/15/1600SP or TP for beetle, split or Type3. I thought VW built a 1600SP type 3 engine but it appears 1600's were TP and 1500's were SP. I will have to check if they did an upgraded 6 volt starter for the 15/1600 engines

Cheers Rob

They used to do an upgraded version, (Bosch), 6v starter motor Rob.  Not seen one in a long time tho`.... Way back lorries had  twin 6v batteries, each linked in series for high capacity. One of these just to say squeezed in under the beetle seat. They were secured to a tray at the side of the chassis and easily acessible. Strangley they grew legs overnight and went "walkabout"   

Just of a matter of interest, if I do build it up! Does any one know if a 12 volt starter will engage enough with the flywheel to start it on the bench? I don't exactly want to buy a 6 volt starter and re-bush another old gearbox to start it   I know people use the 6 volt starters on 12 volt flywheels

Rob

the T3 came with 1500N sp single carb motor 6 or 12V,  1500S sp with twin solex, 1600 dp twin carb and 1600E dp with injection as far as I know and I never came across a 1600 sp one but that is what the 1966 ones must have been.

starter wise a 1967 6V is the same as a 12V but again one year only so hard to find, I have started t3 with a rope around the outer fan before now it was safer than a socket and ratchet into the fan nut.

a proper 12v starter will not mesh with a 6v flywheel as you have a different number of teeth and diameter.

I know someone who used to start engines on the floor with his rubber soled boots, he just put his foot on the flywheel at about two o'clock and sort of stamped it round I guess once it is set up it works fine but not on first start up  So are these larger bottom pulley's I have got laying around for 6 volt dynamos  or 12 volt camper vans?

Rob

I had a 12volt starter converted with a 6 volt cog to run an early 1500 type 3 motor in my 67 split after the orginal 1500 engines flywheel came loose and buggered the crank and case.

If your coming up loughborough way your welcome to borrow it.

Rob I know there's a difference in teeth think it's 109 and 115 rings a bell..... but what I do know is lawson has a 6v starter on his shelves (I didn't tell you lol  )

If your coming up loughborough way your welcome to borrow it.

Thanks so much for the offer Moogster I will see what line I go down with this one. Interesting about swapping the cog over! I wonder if I have a cog off another starter that would fit, uuummm

Cheers Rob

Rob I know there's a difference in teeth think it's 109 and 115 rings a bell..... but what I do know is lawson has a 6v starter on his shelves (I didn't tell you lol  )

Hi David, thanks for that info mums the word

Cheers Rob