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Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 12, 2020, 10:09:41 AM »
As Paul said.
The most important thing is that the pitman arm is centred on a worm and roller box before adjusting tracking. Factory set boxes have a split ring on the input shaft of the worm that lines up with a casting mark on the box. If in doubt, count the turns lock to lock with the steering stops off then half it.

Good lord... All these years and bottles of tippex etc.. Had no idea that there was a casting mark to line the split ring with.  ;D ;D

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 12, 2020, 10:04:54 AM »
145mm on my buggy beam & on my spare beam.. ;-)up ;-)up

Paul is that from the beam tower to the side of the steering box?
145mm on my buggy beam & on my spare beam.. ;-)up ;-)up

Paul is that from the beam tower to the side of the steering box?

Hi Mathew... not heard from you in a long time.  Hope you are all well.   How is the short run og Manx style Roll Hoops going ?

Beam question.   My buggy, south african import beam has a single welded spot for box location. My spare has two small, square raised sections on top of the  tube.  The steering box fits to this tube precisely between these to raised square bits so I am confident the measure ment is accurate. the 145mm is from the tower inner wall to the inner point of the first raised square. This is the point where the steering box arched section sits flush against. On my buggy the single weld dot is where the box locates to and is 145 mm..

Stay safe P.

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 12, 2020, 09:48:14 AM »
Hi John... First full marks for having a go.. ;-)up ;-)up

You have early rods that have the clamps. This is just another method they used to fix the track rod end in place once adjusted.   

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 11, 2020, 02:38:18 PM »
Just seen Keith`s post..... the short rod on beetles up to 1960 in theory but possibly into 61 have a fixed rod. (Rod is also cranked). Replacements with removable ends are available.  (Note early tapers are smaller than later hence you need the correct rod end tapers... You can identify what taper size you have if you look at the rod end taper bit securing nut. Small version nut is 17mm. Large version is 19mm).  Nothing ever straight forward with vw beetle eh  ;D ;D

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 11, 2020, 02:32:08 PM »
Ball park track rods....   Nothing I know of..  It`s an easy process.  Normally when you remove a track rod end you count the number of turns the rod unscrews to give you some idea how many turns to use when fitting the replacement.

So from scratch. When you have the steering box in place fit the flexi coupling to the steering box. Without rods connected rotate the steering box to full left lock and then full right lock of the box. From this continue to get the steering box into it`s centre straight ahead steering position. That is middle of movement. Make a mark for reference on the "rubber" coupling. Tippex or something. Screw in the track rod ends to the short and the long rod about half of the threads. . (Short rod goes from steering box to offside wheel). On each rod one end is left hand and one is right hand thread. You will see why as you progress. Start with the short rod and fit tapers of the rod ends to the eye`s of steering box and the wheel hub section. Nip the rod ends up a bit. Fit long rod to steering box end. (You may have a steering damper as well but this can go on last). Fit long rod to nearside wheel and nip up nut on rod end. Once both in place and the steering box in centre straight ahead position you need to be sure both front wheels are in the straight ahead position. They won`t be so to address this , with the track rod end nuts at rod ends backed off simply grab hold of the rod and turn it and this is where the left hand\right hand threading comes into play. They allow the overall length of the rod and rod end to be shortened or lengthened to straighten up the wheel. Do the same with the short rod to get the other wheel straight. Make sure you have plenty of the rod end thread section into the rod thread. Don`t be afraid to disconnect a rod end and screw the end in or out a bit to get things as equal as you can. When you are happy that the box is central with both wheels pointing straight ahead connect steering column shaft to flex coupling and centre the steering wheel on the splines. Then when all assembled and steering wheel is in the straight ahead position and front wheels are straight ahead go ahead and adjust the tracking. You are looking for a little "toe in". That is to say if you are looking at both front wheels front the front of buggy the wheels need to both point in a little. Volkswagen recomend a 1\8" of toe in. Use something to measure the distance between the rear of the front wheels at the inner surfaces. Then reduce this same measurement on the front inner surfaces by this 1\8" and tighten up the rod nuts and you have tracking sorted. (This is an old car system and it doesn`t require laser accurate alignment. If you want you can have a tyre depot check it for you).   Lot of words here but follow what I have written and you will see what you are doing as you go along.   P.

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 10, 2020, 02:58:06 PM »
145mm on my buggy beam & on my spare beam.. ;-)up ;-)up

Beach Buggy IVA / SVA Help / Re: IVA Conundrum maybe?
« on: June 10, 2020, 08:13:58 AM »
I also have never heard of a v5 being revoked and I do not know what recourse the boys in blue have should a "scanned" number plate give up details of say for example a home build going through iva without windscreen but having one fitted post iva.

the distributor drive gear rides up in itís location as it clears the drive gear it strips the bronze teeth off.

This one of those things in life where you learn the hard way.... ;D

Newbie Welcome Area / Re: Hello
« on: June 09, 2020, 06:20:39 PM »
its a high from me   ;-)up

Beach Buggy General Help / Re: Gland nut removal
« on: June 09, 2020, 06:15:46 PM »
Paul..... guess its a pole and heat....     First try to tighten the nut slightly then try to undo.... This is an old school thing that was\is used to undo rusted on nuts but it has worked for me for truly tight clean threads.  ;-)up ;-)up

Wasn`t aware of a 38mm option...

Beach Buggy Rolling Chassis Help / Re: steering box location
« on: June 09, 2020, 06:11:34 PM »
Don`t overthink this..... make sure your fuel tank allows clearance for the long track rod. It rises and falls from lock to lock.

Once you have the steering column in place and start to connect to the box via the flexi link the box will line up on beam tube.

The box has allowance for a bit of rotation to allow the long rod to operate without rubbing along the frame head.

If you feel more re-assured with the weld spot placement I will pull my buggy out in the morning and measure it`s distance from beam upright inner tomorrow morning.   

Beach Buggy IVA / SVA Help / Re: IVA Conundrum maybe?
« on: June 09, 2020, 06:02:54 PM »
Should you choose to iva and attend to the wheel cover section give some thought to a permanent structure...  Take a look at a motorbike rear wheel. This covering need has been resolved. Imagine a bike mudguard. Imagine chopping it to a small one. Just large enough to cover the wheel as needed.  Thats all the bike has and is fully compliant.

An idea only for the rear..... The "mudguard" needs supporting.   This can easily be attached using tube lengths or a custom made plate bracket or both cut to allow two 12mm holes to be prepared to attach to 2 of the three existing bolts that secure   the existing swing plate to the axle tube. This guard will then rise and fall with the axle remaining at all times in the correct position and you have nothing scrd\glued to the tub. 

This is what I have and painted black it is surprisingly unobtrusive.   Two points...... One don`t use aluminium... Have done this in the past on other kit cars. It simply fractures after use. (Must be something about aluminiums structure). Secondly if you use tube it has a tendency to wobble about so it`s trial and error for shape and diameter plus fixing. (You can secure anything just about to fibreglass\metal etc as long as you use a solvent to wipe any natural greases away and use a polymer adhesive like tiger seal etc... just get it right because once cured you will need a hammer and chisel to part things   ;D).   

Beach Buggy IVA / SVA Help / Re: IVA Conundrum maybe?
« on: June 09, 2020, 05:48:37 PM »
My understanding (could be wrong on this one) is that IVA is essentially a new starting point for a new car.

Dave... Hope you don`t mind me pinching this line... Simply cannot put it any better.. That`s precisely what the buggy will be.

Beach Buggy IVA / SVA Help / Re: IVA Conundrum maybe?
« on: June 09, 2020, 05:45:07 PM »
Once last thing, I appreciate it will need yearly MOTs, but as a 1970 reg, and IVA, would it still be tax exempt?


Not tax exempt. Goes to iva with current dvla registration so you need the v5c. Upon iva certification you apply to dvla with the relevent application form and ALL supporting documentation and upon approval you reveied new V5C with a Q registartion plate. No mot then needed until 3rd year. Q plate lives with buggy forever so no tax exemption applicable.

Rear wheel covering.... exactly per the diagram with wheel hub centre as point to project the forward and rearward angles. Full width of front wheels & full width of rear wheels must be covered extening to these two angles. IMPORTANT... buggies went through iva with no windscreen & no roll hoop in the past. The iva test is "as presented".  owners would then fit windscreen & rollbar post iva. BEWARE    they are wise to this and have updated their recording procedure.  Take a normal kit car as a simple example.... If no side window is fitted the question is asked... "Do you intend to fit side windows?"   You say yes it fails. You say no it passes but the question box is ticked as no intention to fit and this goes on the data base. This data base is accessible to the boys in blue and should you be "scanned" by one of them they have this detail "on screen"...

Beach Buggy Engine and Exhaust Help / Re: corvair power
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:48:14 AM »
Talk about coincidence... Dropped my very poorly engine off at the re-builders last week. Just about to leave his premises and my jaw dropped. Corvair on back of transporter. It had been brought to him because of engine troubles.  I am a long term fan of the corvair ever since it first appeared as the MK1 version. (Yes it was involved in road deaths to drivers but that is simply not driving the vehicle as you should... and then along came a young man called ralph nader and that`s all I will say about that numbskull).

Engine....my opinion only but an iconic air cooled 6 cylinder motor. No these old timers wil lnot give you many mpg but Beetles didn`t give you much more, or at least none of the thirteen I owned did.    Lot of weight to hang off your buggy back end so not ideal ;D ;D

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