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Chatterbox => Members Buggies => Topic started by: parmaynu on November 13, 2018, 03:39:39 PM

Title: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on November 13, 2018, 03:39:39 PM
Last year my wife bought me a chassis, as a 40th birthday present. Iíve had a few projects before but not managed to finish any of them. Iíve wanted a Manx for so long now so will hopefully have the drive to get this one over the line.

After an early life as a beetle, the chassis started a new life in the Ď70ís as a GP beach buggy. The shell had been moved on at some point and was completely bare by the time I go it. It is correctly registered on the logbook which is the most important thing when building a buggy in the UK. Itís also a 1964 chassis which attracted my attention as it was the year the Meyers Manx first went on sale. As my buggy will be very much an old skool build, I thought it would fit well being a Ď64.

The plan for the buggy is a very simple Manx using as many stock original parts from around the 1964era as possible. Something along the lines of Old Red and the other really early cars.

Iím a stay at home dad with 4 kids who take up the majority of my time so progress will be very slow and bitty!

I donít have and welding or fabrication skills so I sent the chassis to Mark at Flatlands Engineering. Mark have a chassis jig and is very experienced in chassis work. He let me know yesterday that all the welding was complete and it was ready for collection.

Here are a few pictures:

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843518.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843519.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843520.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843521.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843522.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843523.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843524.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843525.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843526.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843528.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843529.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843530.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843531.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843527.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843574.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843573.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843572.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843571.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843570.jpg)

Next step is blasting and paint. Going to be a while before that can happen as funds have been drained!
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Paul1953 on November 13, 2018, 04:25:42 PM
Hi again Mathew......   keep us posted on this no matter how long it takes.  Have seen Mark`s jig and this is just what is needed to get the chassis perfectly re-aligned...   Have you noticed the old school bit at pan rear outer... fitting a pleat piece... This is how the original manx was done.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on November 13, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Do you mean on my photos? Iím not sure what bit you mean
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on November 13, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
Forgot to say that I also have a donor car to get things rolling.

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843623.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843622.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843621.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843620.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843619.png)

I also decided to fit pedals from an oval era bug just because I like them best!

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843631.jpg)
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Manxdavid on November 13, 2018, 05:19:10 PM
I'm glad you're going ahead with it but don't think you need to pay out for blasting and pro paint, I've seen wonders done with a cup wire brush in an angle grinder and single pack coach enamel which can be much more durable than 2K paint.

The donor looks great too, a full set of parts, are they real Jackman's on the rear? Too cool if they are!

Oh, and you're building it 'wrong hand drive' by the way! ;D Your donor Bug is 'correct hand drive!' ;-)up

I've got a full set of Manx body support brackets and a column support from a Classic Manx kit if you need to borrow to copy.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Manxrod on November 13, 2018, 05:27:46 PM
You need to have the buggy finished in your head and donít change your mind. Break the build down into smaller jobs and focus on that and then move on to the next that way you are reaching goals. It doesnít matter how long it take as long as you keep moving forward and when itís done you will have it for the rest of your life. Iím looking forward to following your build  ;-)up 8)
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: snoopy on November 13, 2018, 08:47:04 PM
 Good to see yet another build starting and saving an old buggy.  You will need to realign the clutch hook with a packing spacer or move the guide tube in the tunnel to fit the earlier pedals.

Keep us posted even if it is slowly.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: pepsi81 on November 13, 2018, 08:52:47 PM

Nice one. Keep it up. Plenty of support, time will fly, ask Paul 1953  :D
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Hugh on November 14, 2018, 07:36:27 AM
Looks like you essentially have all the basics, except the shell, and sounds like you know what you are doing/embarking upon.

So good luck and I hope this forum helps propel you to your finished gleaming buggy.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Paul1953 on November 14, 2018, 08:04:02 AM
Do you mean on my photos? Iím not sure what bit you mean

4th picture down... I have used the word "pleat" but that is not the correct term... The triangular shaped bit welded into the floorpan to create the outer corner when both halves are brought together. This is cut from the original or replacement pan and quite a neat way of tidying up.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Paul1953 on November 14, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Forgot to say that I also have a donor car to get things rolling.

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843623.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843622.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843621.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843620.png)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843619.png)

I also decided to fit pedals from an oval era bug just because I like them best!

Do you know what Mathew... I like these best too.

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843631.jpg)
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on November 14, 2018, 11:03:10 AM
This is the sort of look I will be going for

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1843878.jpg)
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Keithmanx on November 14, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
Nice one Matthew,

keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Manxdavid on November 14, 2018, 04:55:43 PM
64 is a really nice year too, you can legally get away with no seatbelts, red rear indicators, no mot  etc if you choose to.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on August 22, 2019, 02:21:54 PM
Itís been a long wait but I have finally made a little progress. Chassis has now been blasted and Raptoríd.

Went for a HVLP finish to keep it as smooth as possible. Forgot to mask off the chassis number. Thankfully itís still visible!

All the running gear bits are being done to match now.

(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1941920.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1941919.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1941918.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1941917.jpg)
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1941916.jpg)
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Dave DND on August 22, 2019, 02:45:59 PM
Looking good  ;-)up
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Bealzebug01 on August 23, 2019, 11:59:08 AM
Looks good. Not too sure from the photos how flat is the finish you obtained from the Raptor. What size tire and needle to you use and what psi did you spray at? Gun make and model?
Iím looking to use tintable raptor in tinted to act like tough clear coat on my pan and any info on finish would be really helpful
Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: parmaynu on August 23, 2019, 12:36:29 PM
I didnít spray it. It was a cheap hvlp gun with 2mm tip. The finish is very flat but a little rough. I will put another coat on to try and smooth it a little.
Title: Re: 1964 Classic Manx Build
Post by: Bealzebug01 on August 23, 2019, 01:37:48 PM
Thanks for the info. In regard to the second coat, Iím sure I read on Upols site that you are able to flat the first coat before applying second if you want to tidy things up.
Cheers
Matt