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November 24, 2020, 05:43:46 PM

Winter rest up / long term storage

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on: November 08, 2020, 10:34:15 AM
Whats the thoughts on making sure your engine and carbs dont get messed up with long term storage?

I intend to clamp the fuel line and unplug the fuel pump so it runs dry and gets all the fuel used.

But what else? I dont want crap gumming up the carbs etc.
Other than letting it idle for a good 20mins every week or so?
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Reply #1 on: November 08, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
A lot of the Classic Car clubs recommend raising the car on axle stands so the tyres are not on the ground   :-\
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Reply #2 on: November 08, 2020, 03:59:48 PM
long term I would also drain the fuel tank with this modern fuel.


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Reply #3 on: November 08, 2020, 04:09:58 PM
Arran I'd aim to run it every couple of weeks as that way you will keep everything moving nicely, don't have to take any precautionary measures to avoid fuel or tyre issues, may even catch a few half decent days you can go for a longer run, should spot and sort any 'natural' deterioration (wires coming loose, odd rattles etc) and will be ready to hit the ground running when next buggy season arrives.

If you moth ball your buggy I guarantee you'll take longer next year to get around to thinking about using it and then will find several niggles have developed that prevent a quick getaway.
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Reply #4 on: November 08, 2020, 05:36:58 PM
Just use it occasionally.
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Reply #5 on: November 08, 2020, 06:30:06 PM

Must admit I try to keep everything ready to run. Battery on a conditioner, start her up couple of time a month. Keep
The petrol moving and you should be okay :-\ :D
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Reply #6 on: November 08, 2020, 06:49:19 PM
I was always told not to keep starting it every couple of weeks as it causes excess condensation. If its drained and run dry in the carbs that'll be fine, no need to keep starting it. Cars sit at the docks for months not being moved. Raising the car off the floor is meant to stop it getting flat spots on the tyres but again even told it causes issues with the shocks being pulled to the end so believe what you like. Winterisation is a bit hit and miss, plenty of non proven, wives tale rubbish that makes no difference at all just "the man down the pub told me" nonsense. I've even know someone putting their car of polysterene as he was told cold concrete will damage the tyres in winter  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Reply #7 on: November 08, 2020, 08:46:41 PM
Long term storage concerns engine wise would be which ever valve springs are fully compressed they can be liable to breaking when compressed for long periods :-\
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Reply #8 on: November 08, 2020, 09:02:27 PM

When I say keep her ready Iím mean get out for a decent run. Managed the last few years even up here in Cumbria.
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Reply #9 on: November 11, 2020, 11:39:44 AM
I did my my friends oval bug .. On its last run out he used no e fuel just 99Octane and Then I drained the tank and ran it out of fuel...Fuel lines in bin!. Put it up on stands .Rockers off You do not need to but why not as it keeps the valves closed..Drained oil out and refilled to the cam was in oil. Battery off. Floor mats up/out coil lead off .Did a list put on steering wheel....8 years past ......mats back down. New fuel lines on. New battery on fuel in tank .Rockers back on A good look over and spun it up to oil light off .coil lead back on and ran it up for 1/2hr! Had good look under it and then drain the oil back down. Off stands A good wash and give it a good trip out 12 photos later and it was put on ebay...
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Reply #10 on: November 11, 2020, 01:02:24 PM
Speaking from decades of experience over-wintering vehicles my opinion is that the old school opinions are spot on. They arose from peoples actual experience and what better way to learn than suffer the consequence of lay ups without thought.  I have had tyres develop flat sections due to non rotation over the months. I have had an extreme example of condensation whereby a brand new exhaust system rotted through from the inside rendering it useless.

Stick to basic principles.... Yes raise buggy up off floor. Keep an eye on brake disc surfaces if you have them to ensure they don`t fall foull of deep rusting. Operate foot brake frequently. Do not leave handbrake on. Operate handbrake frequently. Operate all switches frequently. Fuel... guess this is a modern issue and the flexi fuel lines will suffer.

Don`t use a cover over your buggy. Condensation is unavoidable but a cover multiplies this many times over. Electrolytic action between dissimilar metals is a fact of life but the less moisture present the less the chemical reaction will be. Cover prevents air from circulating freely.

Engine...... Here I think is a major issue with an aircooled lump hanging off the back. In theory an engine should be turned over frequently but there are pitfalls as I have just discovered and am still not yet out of the woods with. Engine must be run until fully up to temperature each and every time. If you don`t you will get condensation within the rocker covers especially but also elsewhere.

So in my humble opinion, for what it`s worth, best practice ..... Take your buggy out for a spin, once a week, every week wether you do it or someone else does in your absence. Keep the garage etc well ventilated.  ;-)up ;-)up


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Reply #11 on: November 11, 2020, 05:07:49 PM
 just give it me to use over winter 😁


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Reply #12 on: November 12, 2020, 07:24:51 AM
just give it me to use over winter 😁

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