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Engine temperature

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on: August 12, 2020, 04:06:12 PM
Just out of curiosity, how hot is too hot for engine oil in a type 1?
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Reply #1 on: August 12, 2020, 04:10:49 PM
Just out of curiosity, how hot is too hot for engine oil in a type 1?

If you can't hold the dipstick it's too hot.
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Reply #2 on: August 12, 2020, 05:01:16 PM
Oil Temp °F   Oil Temp °C    Status
0-1800-82too cool
180-21082-99normal
210-23099-110hot but OK
230-250110-121very hot
250+121+turn it off


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Reply #3 on: August 12, 2020, 05:07:57 PM
Both excellent answers but one a little more use than the other. Won't say which, don't want to upset anyone  ;-)(-; ;-)(-; ;-)(-;
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Reply #4 on: August 12, 2020, 06:19:12 PM
Both excellent answers but one a little more use than the other. Won't say which, don't want to upset anyone  ;-)(-; ;-)(-; ;-)(-;

It all depends on it you believe in the calibration of a 'non industrial' quality guage, and also whereabouts the sender is fitted.

If you use my method and hear yourself saying 'oh sh#t' then it's too hot😆😆😆
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Reply #5 on: August 12, 2020, 06:44:57 PM
David, are you suggesting your answer was the least useful and now trying to justify it? Remember you said it not me  ;D

I only asked because I use a dipstick sender which I have tested in a pot of water being heated and just slightly over reads at boiling point. Yesterday, pretty warm air and pushing it up hills, it sat on 100c

Top of dipstick is plastic so no easy way to check without getting hands oily

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Reply #6 on: August 12, 2020, 08:15:42 PM
my late   import beetle with vdo    dipstick sender and guage  has never gone past 90 degrees   even on hot days 


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Reply #7 on: August 13, 2020, 07:09:53 AM

Yesterday, pretty warm air and pushing it up hills, it sat on 100c

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Well impressed here, pushing a buggy up hill in 30 plus degrees C you must have been getting near that temp.

I would be happy with 100C there is some tough driving around there.


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Reply #8 on: August 13, 2020, 12:34:44 PM
Cheers Keith, that's what I was thinking

 Going to try one stronger spring in the dizzy to slightly slow the advance as may be getting there slightly too quickly as it needs beans on the hills and with the narrow bendy roads no run up possible
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Reply #9 on: August 13, 2020, 09:06:25 PM
I have just fitted a standard 1600 VW vac distributor to the Jas and it has improved the uphill acceleration from low rpm as it is better suited to the 100 cam than the 009 which liked the revs. There should be 2 springs changing just one may be enough you can check the advance curve with a strobe timing light even easier if you have a degreed pulley.


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Reply #10 on: August 13, 2020, 09:28:44 PM
I've got a Pertronix dizzy, recommended setting for the engine is the lightest springs and max advance is spot on, as I couldn't see revs, just guessed, could have got there before 3000 that's why I'm going to try making it slower and see how it goes.
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Reply #11 on: August 17, 2020, 04:57:33 PM
Dave

Have a look at this, it is from "Tuning Volkswagens" by Peter Noad, published in 1972

http://www.chris-jordan.org.uk/_media/temperature-chart.pdf

My runs at about 180 to 200 degrees F on a long run

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Reply #12 on: August 17, 2020, 07:42:13 PM
Cheers Chris
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Reply #13 on: August 17, 2020, 07:44:53 PM
That chart gives a simple solution, fit a sump sensor
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Reply #14 on: August 17, 2020, 09:27:59 PM



Use to have a temperature sensor in the sump, got very little indication. Moved to VDO dip stick type, slightly more of a reading. Now using this set up.
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