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February 27, 2021, 06:53:27 PM

V5 Description

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Reply #30 on: June 25, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
15k is petty cash to some folks, thinking back to 1977 or 78 when lil chev got sold cannot remember if it was 5.5 or 7.5k more money than the newly  released Triumph TR7


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Reply #31 on: June 25, 2020, 09:34:08 PM
I don't think I dreampt this but if I remember correctly from the price lists on the now defunct Flatlands website, IVA certification on a build was an optional extra and the price for it was either £1000 or £1500
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Reply #32 on: June 27, 2020, 04:29:36 PM
The cost of iva certification Mark was charging back when I last visited in 2016 was £2000. No roll bar or standard windscreen fitted for this compliance. Marks new website still shows "under construction". 


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Reply #33 on: July 16, 2020, 07:59:17 PM
I looked at a Flatlands build and the V5 was buggy it had an IVA test. I can not see them being able to just say it is are build so It is Ok. As Jago and UVA had to have there name on the v5 or the model.... 15k is not bad money the engine is 5k!!  Any way if you got 15k you got 1k? For a beach buggy v5 chassis If need be..
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Reply #34 on: July 17, 2020, 07:38:45 AM
From my understanding firms like  Flatlands can build a car and put it through IVA and get a pass, then if they build more of an identical car they just send in the build paperwork to get a pass. If you buy a built westfield you get a certificate of conformity so this must cover the IVA unless they are recognised as a large enough producer that the cars do not require a test.


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Reply #35 on: July 17, 2020, 08:33:56 AM
keith is correct here in that flatlands and anyone else building a vehicle that requires iva certification to become dvla registered and road legal needs only to put a first vehicle through an actual test. All other builds, providing they are identical in every way to the origina,l can be given certification following the submission of the iva documentation for each of the subsequent vehicles. Vosa can ask for an actual physical examination at their discretion should they choose to in order to keep a "check" on build compliance.

The westfield example is one of a producer who has undertaken the necessary steps to ensure the "parts" you purchase that comprises a "kit" has inbuilt "conformity" to the iva requirements providing you assemble to iva standards and anything you add over this has to be iva compliant.  I don`t know if the likes of westfield etc offer a fully built vehicle that has been put through iva and subsequent registration through dvla and a Q plate issued.

I know from talking to Mark in person that his iva builds went though examination without a windscreen or roll bar so if you see one of these buggies that are on offer with a windscreen and\or roll bar then they are technically no longer road legal. (They can however have compliance if they went through an examination fitted with one or two "aero screens" and these are still fitted).

To stay clear of a mine field I would, and this is simply my opinion, try to find a buggy that has the best compliance regarding chassis vin number that matches the V5C along with a V5C that has a type\model description that excludes the word "beetle".  ;-)up ;-)up


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Reply #36 on: July 17, 2020, 11:20:23 AM
Hi Paul, interesting he left the roll bar out as that is a good seatbelt mounting and his builds would need seatbelts. Being screen less means no washers, wipers and associated wiring and switches so fitting anything but aero screens or a small clear wind deflector is major work to keep it compliant and legal, although I have personally never heard of cars being rechecked at a later date. Early sports car replicas look odd with a modern safety steering wheel so most must get retrofitted to a non compliant classic wheel


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Reply #37 on: July 17, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
Hi....  Keith hope you are keeping well....   Re-check.  I meant to indicate that say.... build no 1 is iva examined and certified. Then builds 2 onwards can be certified using the relevant paperwork only providing 2 onwards is identical in every way to no 1. Then say you submit paperwork for build no 10 vosa can ask for a physical examination to check that you are still complying with the No 1 spec.

Mark used harness for the iva buggies. If he ever fitted standard seat belts and got one through iva then I am not aware of this. Aero screens meant no windscreen wiper checks which believe it or not became a main failure item unless the lucas system was fitted and that you ensured the wiper arm stems met the raddii check....many of which didn`t. Have seen a iva failure notice with the comment written... "wiper arm too sharp".. ;D


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Reply #38 on: July 17, 2020, 03:16:23 PM
unless the lucas system was fitted

I actually prefer the lucas system with Mini wipers for a buggy.  No need for additional modification


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Reply #39 on: July 17, 2020, 06:41:06 PM
I used VW rack with Mini Wipac/Lucas type arms and blades using LandRover adapters.



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Reply #40 on: July 17, 2020, 07:01:37 PM
 Have seen a iva failure notice with the comment written... "wiper arm too sharp".. ;D



that is unreal next item will be glass to hard if the pedestrian avoided being diced by the wiper armswhilst passing further up the bonnet.


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Reply #41 on: July 18, 2020, 11:42:00 AM
unless the lucas system was fitted

I actually prefer the lucas system with Mini wipers for a buggy.  No need for additional modification

I agree with you. Lucas system from ages past but works perfectly and totally adaptable for location. I opted for the adjustable arms which allowed me to choose the overall length of each arm to suit the screen area.


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Reply #42 on: July 18, 2020, 07:37:58 PM
The other reason for no windscreen at test was that you would also need a de-misting system fitted as well.
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Reply #43 on: July 20, 2020, 07:50:12 PM
The other reason for no windscreen at test was that you would also need a de-misting system fitted as well.

Correct Andy   ;-)up